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Post by dramos on Sept 12, 2009 16:35:56 GMT -5
Greetings to all of you, I am new to this site and have much of my own material I would like to share with you of my "intuition" of things. I also will enjoy reading your articles as well of which will tend to put in my two "sense". I have been on this journey for most of my life, not always easy I must say. I want to share with you now an article I wrote a few years back of which helped me to conclude where True answers can be found. With that said enjoy.
The Awakening"
The deeper I dig into my own research of this world and inwardly as well, I slowly become more intoned to a truth, the misstep in oneness of spirit. Each and every living thing of this world share a common bond, an unseen unity and a share of life itself. We are all ""waves" in an endless time to which each individual act that is taken spreads through the world like ripples on a pond. We are energy sources alive in material and we feed off one another in consciousness to reality.
The times of which we now live are in the awakening stage, a time of which mankind has become more aware of things, to which a new day has been dawning for man, an information "boom". We are realizing the true impact we have made on this earth, our home and unfortunately this realization carries with it an unyeilding truth--" a gross misuse of life". We have become a misrepresentation of what was once, to be, a unity of all living things. What happened to this unity, to us.
Theorising...
Where is it that we find true answers of ourselves? Inwardly. In some spectrum of our being we all share a common thread, that of existing together in peace and love. At some point in time this was not an adequate attribute and some started to seek out answers Externally. Could this have been the turning point to the beginning of our downward spiral. Look at it this way as an example: Computers truly have advanced us in more ways than we could have ever imagined, an external source of our life. That's not so wrong, is it? For we have become so advanced, as a civilization, that we have created a means for what we feel are better times ahead with new possibilites always around the bend. This "external means" actually has been stripping life from us! We rely so heavily on this that we as a people have lost sight of our "inward" being of which we are actually being "dumbed" by it. We are losing our own sense of purpose and that of life's unity, our technological advancements are adverts to our disadvancements as a species. You may argue this point but these things have become as second nature instead of using our own god-send "brains" in figuring out what truly is best for us.
That was the article and even to this day I hold true to those words, now of course if I have an uncertainty with a topic of interest I will do some research to get the bases of understanding but beyond that I seem to be able to put the pieces together with my "inward" understanding which collectively gives me the overall picture.
I look forward to any comments for we can learn much from each other.
Dramos
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Post by lightmystic on Sept 13, 2009 1:48:02 GMT -5
I really have no idea what you are talking about or the point of the article. What is it you are looking for? I'm afraid you have me a bit confused at the moment.
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Post by anonji on Sept 13, 2009 7:30:00 GMT -5
Where is it that we find true answers of ourselves? Inwardly. In some spectrum of our being we all share a common thread, that of existing together in peace and love. At some point in time this was not an adequate attribute and some started to seek out answers Externally. Could this have been the turning point to the beginning of our downward spiral. Dramos, I think you are on the right track, but consider this: while the inner may be the seat of peace, love, joy and wisdom, for most the inner is a mess. It is full of conditioning and noise and they are not able to listen to it clearly. It's only after an awakening experience that the inner is cleared out. After that, the inner is mostly silent and we can listen to all that rises naturally from it. Even the external is not the enemy here. When the inner is purged, then everything takes it proper place: the external, the world of the senses, works as it should without the interference/filtering of thought, so that we see things as they are. The inner will offer us real insights and feelings about that which the senses touch. Those that take a purely inner journey often suffer from mental illness since they are not attending to input from their senses. Their world becomes very subjective and they are not able to communicate to others. The two sides of our nature (inner and outer) need to work together in order to Be-in-the-World. While your insights come from the inner, the senses connect us to each other. After all, you are only aware of the other (out there) via the senses. And then we feel that connection in the inner. Hope that gave you something to chew on  |
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Post by eputkonen on Sept 13, 2009 8:20:03 GMT -5
For we have become so advanced, as a civilization.... We are not advanced...we are barely out of kindergarten. Furthermore, we have yet to see a true civilization. It is still tribes fighting for power and control. The veil of civility is astonishingly thin. |
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Post by dramos on Sept 13, 2009 8:32:24 GMT -5
I am looking for your questions. What is that unyeilding sense, the need to find purpose? What is drawing us to find these answers, to search so to speak?
Ultimately it is Spirit. Each and every thing of this world consists of Spirit, we are of Spirit and Spirit is of us. This, in fact, is the unity within all existance and of this my friend is what (for me personally) I have become " Awakened" to.
More so of late that Spirit is dwindling and we feel it for we are of it henceforth the reason why we are here, to help "reunite" that "Oneness, Unity of Spirit" , not only to help each other recognize this but also to become "beacons of light" to all we come in contact with. We need not be "preachy" about such things but become examples by how we conduct ourselves around others.
I am a "watcher" , so to speak, of which I understand how things are unfolding within the structure of this world to which I see how "sick" the Spirit has become. My friends we have become the "antibodies" towards the healing of "Spirit" , each and everyone will have their role of which we will know what that is when the time comes.
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Post by dramos on Sept 13, 2009 9:07:24 GMT -5
Thank you for your replies of which you are all correct. The "inner" I spoke of in finding "truths" is not becoming a "recluse" rather it is taking in all that is around you, the experiences of life, things happen for a reason not by coincidence, it is a teaching tool that helps shed light of awareness to understanding.
WE understand that we are NOT advanced when it comes to technologies, this will NEVER be the solutions for anybody...however those without this understanding view it differently. This has become "god like" to them of which has become ever consuming and distracting ever more so away from finding True answers for Themselves.
I would like to go further but I have a reunion to go to, I have a strong conviction with family.
Take care and thanks
Dramos
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Post by anonji on Sept 13, 2009 9:16:36 GMT -5
Dramos,
If you are looking to become a guru to this crowd, you've come to the wrong place. Many here have also had an awakening. Rather than indoctrinating us with your particular phrases, why don't you speak to your process of awakening? We can all learn from the commonalities of experience.
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Post by divinity on Sept 13, 2009 10:05:48 GMT -5
Dramos... welcome, and thanks for sharing your personal awakening. I agree with Anonji that here on this site, we are not in need of gurus because we are our own gurus.
I too would like to know the process of your awakening .
I too have been on this journey to whatever for my whole life and have discovered that not everyone on the planet is! We all have a subjective view of what awakening/ enlightenment/ realization, etc is, and I love to hear what others have found and how.
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Post by lightmystic on Sept 14, 2009 10:09:34 GMT -5
I think you might find that spirit is only appearing to be sick because those areas that it seems sick to you need more of your attention. In terms of questions: what questions? It sounds like the biggest obstacle is thinking there are things that are somehow not spirit? Are you sure they are not spirit? How do you know? Sorry if I come across heavy handed, but I feel like these are very important questions, and it's important not to lose the forest for the trees. I am looking for your questions. What is that unyeilding sense, the need to find purpose? What is drawing us to find these answers, to search so to speak? Ultimately it is Spirit. Each and every thing of this world consists of Spirit, we are of Spirit and Spirit is of us. This, in fact, is the unity within all existance and of this my friend is what (for me personally) I have become " Awakened" to. More so of late that Spirit is dwindling and we feel it for we are of it henceforth the reason why we are here, to help "reunite" that "Oneness, Unity of Spirit" , not only to help each other recognize this but also to become "beacons of light" to all we come in contact with. We need not be "preachy" about such things but become examples by how we conduct ourselves around others. I am a "watcher" , so to speak, of which I understand how things are unfolding within the structure of this world to which I see how "sick" the Spirit has become. My friends we have become the "antibodies" towards the healing of "Spirit" , each and everyone will have their role of which we will know what that is when the time comes. |
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Post by Peter on Sept 14, 2009 10:56:55 GMT -5
Hi Dramos...yeah....I get the feeling you're looking for appreciation and I fear what you might find instead is dissection and discussion. Seriously I recommend setting up your own blog and then people can read your work, take it or leave it. You'd be welcome to advertise it here in the appropriate section. Eric makes an eloquent point about the veil of civility. I looked for that old adage about society being 3 meals away from anarchy, and apparently it comes from British MI5! www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article492642.ece |
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Post by dramos on Sept 14, 2009 19:17:58 GMT -5
WOW....You know maybe I got off on the wrong foot here. I meant no ill will here, I was just sharing my experience of my "awakening" moment of which was a few years ago.....hell I got slammed with that one, two punch. Guru? Doctrine? I appoligize if I came off that way and will be more cautious with my words.
I came to this site, not only to find help in understanding things but for your advice as well of which some points were given. There are things that I do understand and am aware of to which I was just looking for that extra push and with that there are still a lot of things that I do not understand and was seeking your insights of experiences.
Dramos
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Post by anonji on Sept 14, 2009 19:40:15 GMT -5
We only know each other on the internet by the words we put on the page. It's unfortunate that it is so one-dimensional, but that's the way it is. I'll think you'll do okay here. I expect that whatever you are comfortable in sharing will be received courteously, and if you've felt a little put off by our cautious responses, it will pass!
peace
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Post by lightmystic on Sept 15, 2009 10:05:47 GMT -5
Hey dramos, no harm, no foul. My words were not intended to "get" you in any way, I was just playing. I love talking about this stuff and am genuinely interested in your experience regarding the questions I posted. From this poster at least, there are no bad feelings. WOW....You know maybe I got off on the wrong foot here. I meant no ill will here, I was just sharing my experience of my "awakening" moment of which was a few years ago.....hell I got slammed with that one, two punch. Guru? Doctrine? I appoligize if I came off that way and will be more cautious with my words. I came to this site, not only to find help in understanding things but for your advice as well of which some points were given. There are things that I do understand and am aware of to which I was just looking for that extra push and with that there are still a lot of things that I do not understand and was seeking your insights of experiences. Dramos |
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Post by dramos on Sept 15, 2009 13:24:24 GMT -5
I am appreciative of all of this and all of you.
Allow me to present to you a little more about myself, of which I would rather do in person because 'anonji' is correct in stateing that this is a one-dementional means of communication.
As mentioned before it was at a young age that I came to an understanding, in essance the understanding was the purity of Love for all and of Being, it was at this point that my view of things began to change but I did not understand why. During this time my parents became involved with a religious group and I became indoctrinated with their belief system, however, for myself, I felt that something was just not right. Into my teenage years I began meditating, praying for understanding, knowledge and wisdom of which became almost a daily routine. The doctrine kept fighting back, it became a clutch on my mind, voiding me of who or what I truly was of which "silenced" certain abilities as well.
I have come to understand that things happen for a reason and let me explain why. With that constant struggle "within" I mentally broke, was in and out of institutions an the such. I began therapies of which helped to rediscover who I was. I began the study of psychology, I needed to understand for myself why these things were happening. That "clutch" began releasing.
Some time after this I began research of those things that held me at bay for so long because even at this point the "doctrine" was still there but not as incompassing. Through much meditation and study the "clutch" had been released and the "veil" was lifted, it became one of many "awakening" moments. Through intense therapies I found one of the best methods for rediscovering myself was to write things down....this in it self has allowed me to find answers. I do this even unto this day, if there is a subject of interest I will study and research it's contents, jot down a few notes here and there but the complete "picture" is not whole until I have time to think it through. That only happens when the "moment" hits me that I am able to view the "picture" as a whole, complete.
Now having this understanding I felt the need to share with others, however, a part of me was uncomfortable in sharing but at the same time I wanted to help others understand. Understand what? Exactly. I became that which I loath and it was being here that you have helped me realize this. Each individual has the "free will" to find their own answers and for me to publish my understanding of the things I have been searching, yes it may help however it could be detrimental in their own pursuits of Truth.
Glad to be aboard.
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Post by divinity on Sept 15, 2009 13:26:15 GMT -5
I've found in my time here in this current mechanism we call the physical body, that everyone has something to teach. The question is do we want to learn? Or more properly, do we want to remember what we have eternally known?
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