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Post by tzujanli on Jun 7, 2013 16:35:48 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greeting.. It didn't feel that way.. 'I' am not separate from 'mind'.. Be well.. Hi tzu, Does that mean 'you' are the mind? Is all that appears mind imagined/constructed? amit It means that mind is a function of 'that' which i am, not separate from 'that'.. What do you mean by "all that appears"? Imagination can be creative or fantasy/illusory, what capacity of imagined/constructed are you referring to? Sensory input, and i include insight, intuition, and energetic frequency awareness as forms sensory input and information acquisition, but.. sensory input plays out and is revealed through the common medium of mind.. it is possible to deduce an argument that supports the belief that everything is 'imagined/constructed', because the sensory input is imaged in the mind's interface with consciousness, intelligence, awareness, and presence.. but, it is the singular process we have for translating awareness of our existence into actionable interaction with the environment, with others, with Life.. the notion that some people assert as true, that "it's all imagined", is not a productive communication or understanding.. Be well..
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Post by topology on Jun 7, 2013 16:40:10 GMT -5
Hi beingist, Who or what is the 'I' that didn't ask? If you say "I was" I give up:) amit The mind that read/reacted to your request didn't feel inspired to ask.
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Post by Beingist on Jun 7, 2013 17:30:59 GMT -5
Hi beingist, Who or what is the 'I' that didn't ask? If you say "I was" I give up:) amit Beats me what the 'I' is. I've asked. And continue to ask, but I haven't the foggiest idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 17:35:45 GMT -5
Hi beingist, Who or what is the 'I' that didn't ask? If you say "I was" I give up:) amit One might ask: Why are you trying? same goes for Tzu?
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 7, 2013 18:55:11 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi beingist, Who or what is the 'I' that didn't ask? If you say "I was" I give up:) amit One might ask: Why are you trying? same goes for Tzu? There's no 'trying' involved.. i allow a still mind, and i report what is observed.. Why would 'one' ask? Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 22:38:11 GMT -5
Greetings.. One might ask: Why are you trying? same goes for Tzu? There's no 'trying' involved.. i allow a still mind, and i report what is observed.. Why would 'one' ask? Be well.. :-) Can I ask why you debate with Enigma with the tone and frequency that you do?.....What is it that you think can be gained if anything, also, do you see Enigma as causing some kind of harm? I'm genuinely curious, as I use to do the same things, and say almost the same things to him....in fact, much of what you say here in general could have been written word for word by me a year or two ago....so your kind of an interesting window for me. Zendancer tried to give me some good advice back in the day, it was the same advice he had gotten I believe, and then ignored, and I did the same thing to his advice....you will probably do the same thing with mine lol Here it is. You have come to a place of genuine realization... if you were born in a different time and in a different pace, say Asia or India, and lived in a monastery, most would say you have achieved enlightenment.....personally, I've come to regard the whole idea of enlightenment as silly.....never-the-less, you have unmoored your mind from a lot of things, and have found the meaning and power of Stillness and "entered" it.... But now the problem is that your mind, having become unsprung, is a weird mixture of stunning clarity, and chaotic movement, and there is a driving force to share that clarity....in fact, the clarity itself establishes a kind of certainty in the sharing of your clarity, in whatever way you find yourself doing it, even if it is adviserial or rude. So here's my advice, the same advice that ZD gave me and I ignored, as you will also ignore it....go and let the mind settle for a bit, instead of following the urge to be a window to the world of the clarity that is blossoming in you. your mind, i.e. the part of you that interacts with others, and is the window of the clarity that you are being a witness to, has become unmoored from past connections, and the mind is like a coiled spring in those situations....when the spring is suddenly released its a rather violent affair.....you can't see how violent it is to your surroundings because you are settled into stillness in such a way that the movement of your mind seems no more violent and movementy that the rest of the movement around you....so please take my advice....your mind still exists, and is being VERY violent right now while you are centered in stillness.....go someplace where the people around you are not likely to agitate that violently unsprung mind and poke it with a sharp stick while luaghing at you....not this place brother.... Let the mind settle for a year, and then share the clarity that is blossoming in you from the stillness....also, you may have detached you mind from its oorings, but its still there, including the yucky parts, just bouncing around in that stillness....a little time spent with your mind fermenting in that stillness will help desolve some of the yucky parts ;-)....and make you a better window.
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Post by laughter on Jun 7, 2013 23:38:44 GMT -5
( ... O .. M..G ... i've got tears in my eyes and my diaphragm hurts! ...)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:02:40 GMT -5
( ... O .. M..G ... i've got tears in my eyes and my diaphragm hurts! ...) LMAO....that's the funniest post I've ever seen on this forum I'm walking the dog and I think if anybody sees me they'll think I'm a lunatic from laughing so much ....my stomach stomach muscles are actually hurting from it.... It was worth coming back here just for that! Best laugh I've had in ages....you sure picked a good screen name lol Thank you for that.
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Post by laughter on Jun 8, 2013 0:04:16 GMT -5
GODZILLA!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:07:11 GMT -5
VS: MOTHRA!
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Post by amit on Jun 8, 2013 1:52:30 GMT -5
Greetings.. There's no 'trying' involved.. i allow a still mind, and i report what is observed.. Why would 'one' ask? Be well.. :-) Can I ask why you debate with Enigma with the tone and frequency that you do?.....What is it that you think can be gained if anything, also, do you see Enigma as causing some kind of harm? I'm genuinely curious, as I use to do the same things, and say almost the same things to him....in fact, much of what you say here in general could have been written word for word by me a year or two ago....so your kind of an interesting window for me. Zendancer tried to give me some good advice back in the day, it was the same advice he had gotten I believe, and then ignored, and I did the same thing to his advice....you will probably do the same thing with mine lol Here it is. You have come to a place of genuine realization... if you were born in a different time and in a different pace, say Asia or India, and lived in a monastery, most would say you have achieved enlightenment.....personally, I've come to regard the whole idea of enlightenment as silly.....never-the-less, you have unmoored your mind from a lot of things, and have found the meaning and power of Stillness and "entered" it.... But now the problem is that your mind, having become unsprung, is a weird mixture of stunning clarity, and chaotic movement, and there is a driving force to share that clarity....in fact, the clarity itself establishes a kind of certainty in the sharing of your clarity, in whatever way you find yourself doing it, even if it is adviserial or rude. So here's my advice, the same advice that ZD gave me and I ignored, as you will also ignore it....go and let the mind settle for a bit, instead of following the urge to be a window to the world of the clarity that is blossoming in you. your mind, i.e. the part of you that interacts with others, and is the window of the clarity that you are being a witness to, has become unmoored from past connections, and the mind is like a coiled spring in those situations....when the spring is suddenly released its a rather violent affair.....you can't see how violent it is to your surroundings because you are settled into stillness in such a way that the movement of your mind seems no more violent and movementy that the rest of the movement around you....so please take my advice....your mind still exists, and is being VERY violent right now while you are centered in stillness.....go someplace where the people around you are not likely to agitate that violently unsprung mind and poke it with a sharp stick while luaghing at you....not this place brother.... Let the mind settle for a year, and then share the clarity that is blossoming in you from the stillness....also, you may have detached you mind from its oorings, but its still there, including the yucky parts, just bouncing around in that stillness....a little time spent with your mind fermenting in that stillness will help desolve some of the yucky parts ;-)....and make you a better window. Hi steve, Who are you addressing? amit
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Post by amit on Jun 8, 2013 1:59:31 GMT -5
Greetings.. Hi tzu, Does that mean 'you' are the mind? Is all that appears mind imagined/constructed? amit It means that mind is a function of 'that' which i am, not separate from 'that'.. What do you mean by "all that appears"? Imagination can be creative or fantasy/illusory, what capacity of imagined/constructed are you referring to? Sensory input, and i include insight, intuition, and energetic frequency awareness as forms sensory input and information acquisition, but.. sensory input plays out and is revealed through the common medium of mind.. it is possible to deduce an argument that supports the belief that everything is 'imagined/constructed', because the sensory input is imaged in the mind's interface with consciousness, intelligence, awareness, and presence.. but, it is the singular process we have for translating awareness of our existence into actionable interaction with the environment, with others, with Life.. the notion that some people assert as true, that "it's all imagined", is not a productive communication or understanding.. Be well.. Hi tzu, Only a function and not actually 'that'? By "all that appears" I mean the whole of the manifestation of difference assumed to be infinite on infinite scales. amit
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Post by amit on Jun 8, 2013 2:03:42 GMT -5
Hi beingist, Who or what is the 'I' that didn't ask? If you say "I was" I give up:) amit One might ask: Why are you trying? same goes for Tzu? Hi steve, Is there something wrong with exploring? amit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 2:39:08 GMT -5
One might ask: Why are you trying? same goes for Tzu? Hi steve, Is there something wrong with exploring? amit Not at all :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 2:43:42 GMT -5
:-) Can I ask why you debate with Enigma with the tone and frequency that you do?.....What is it that you think can be gained if anything, also, do you see Enigma as causing some kind of harm? I'm genuinely curious, as I use to do the same things, and say almost the same things to him....in fact, much of what you say here in general could have been written word for word by me a year or two ago....so your kind of an interesting window for me. Zendancer tried to give me some good advice back in the day, it was the same advice he had gotten I believe, and then ignored, and I did the same thing to his advice....you will probably do the same thing with mine lol Here it is. You have come to a place of genuine realization... if you were born in a different time and in a different pace, say Asia or India, and lived in a monastery, most would say you have achieved enlightenment.....personally, I've come to regard the whole idea of enlightenment as silly.....never-the-less, you have unmoored your mind from a lot of things, and have found the meaning and power of Stillness and "entered" it.... But now the problem is that your mind, having become unsprung, is a weird mixture of stunning clarity, and chaotic movement, and there is a driving force to share that clarity....in fact, the clarity itself establishes a kind of certainty in the sharing of your clarity, in whatever way you find yourself doing it, even if it is adviserial or rude. So here's my advice, the same advice that ZD gave me and I ignored, as you will also ignore it....go and let the mind settle for a bit, instead of following the urge to be a window to the world of the clarity that is blossoming in you. your mind, i.e. the part of you that interacts with others, and is the window of the clarity that you are being a witness to, has become unmoored from past connections, and the mind is like a coiled spring in those situations....when the spring is suddenly released its a rather violent affair.....you can't see how violent it is to your surroundings because you are settled into stillness in such a way that the movement of your mind seems no more violent and movementy that the rest of the movement around you....so please take my advice....your mind still exists, and is being VERY violent right now while you are centered in stillness.....go someplace where the people around you are not likely to agitate that violently unsprung mind and poke it with a sharp stick while luaghing at you....not this place brother.... Let the mind settle for a year, and then share the clarity that is blossoming in you from the stillness....also, you may have detached you mind from its oorings, but its still there, including the yucky parts, just bouncing around in that stillness....a little time spent with your mind fermenting in that stillness will help desolve some of the yucky parts ;-)....and make you a better window. Hi steve, Who are you addressing? amit I have no idea
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