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Post by silver on May 2, 2013 11:10:25 GMT -5
You're making a scene. Please contribute to the thread or don't post here. Thank you. (0_o) As laughter pointed out, you're the one here in drag putting on a show. Your antics haven't changed much since your melt down and banning. If Jed wrote his latest book to validate his ego, it looks to me like you're tearing it down and other people to validate yours. Here it comes |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on May 2, 2013 11:16:33 GMT -5
You're making a scene. Please contribute to the thread or don't post here. Thank you. (0_o) As laughter pointed out, you're the one here in drag putting on a show. Your antics haven't changed much since your melt down and banning. If Jed wrote his latest book to validate his ego, it looks to me like you're tearing it down and other people to validate yours. Please send me a PM if you have a problem with me. Thank you. |
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Post by topology on May 2, 2013 11:25:30 GMT -5
(0_o) As laughter pointed out, you're the one here in drag putting on a show. Your antics haven't changed much since your melt down and banning. If Jed wrote his latest book to validate his ego, it looks to me like you're tearing it down and other people to validate yours. Please send me a PM if you have a problem with me. Thank you. You didn't send SDP a PM when you told him he was spamming the internets. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on May 3, 2013 5:51:56 GMT -5
I would suggest if she is really interested, read the entire book, not just 20 pages. I will most certainly not give my money to a charlatan. OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on May 3, 2013 7:41:26 GMT -5
I will most certainly not give my money to a charlatan. OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp I'm saying that his TOE is complete nonsense. His error is so fundamental that at some level he must understand that he is wrong and yet it doesn't stop him from presenting himself like he has absolute authority... so either he is knowingly lying or he is deluded. Now, like I said, I'm not competent enough to judge his first book, but for me his errors in the TOE cast a dark shadow over his entire oeuvre. Knowing what I now know about him I can't justify having faith in anything he is saying. |
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Post by topology on May 3, 2013 7:49:03 GMT -5
OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp I'm saying that his TOE is complete nonsense. His error is so fundamental that at some level he must understand that he is wrong and yet it doesn't stop him from presenting himself like he has absolute authority... so either he is knowingly lying or he is deluded. Now, like I said, I'm not competent enough to judge his first book, but for me his errors in the TOE cast a dark shadow over his entire oeuvre. Knowing what I now know about him I can't justify having faith in anything he is saying. Do you know the man personally? How do you know what you think you know about him? And what is it that you believe to know? |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 7:56:39 GMT -5
I will most certainly not give my money to a charlatan. OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp The selling water by the river story always made me chuckle. These days you're taking your life in your hands by drinking the water from a river. Selling H2O instead of river water by the river might be a service. Methinks a better summation is that Jed is selling bottled river water with his own label. The level of contamination of that water is debatable but should be tested. When I read his first 3 books, which I paid for, I found them total page-turners. I was on a hiatus from steeping in buddhism and some of the things he said were extremely refreshing. I had always thought nirvana was something basically unattainable unless one completely devoted their life to the 8-fold path (become a monk). There was very little I encountered about 'householders' awakening. It was a path of gradualism, progressively whittling away at attachments and suffering. So Jed's pronouncements that Truth exists and that it can be realized for those that dare (via autolysis) was envigorating. He also pointed to other places to look -- Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta, Richard Rose, UG Krishnamurti -- all of those I eagerly dove into. Despite the fresh ideas and new possibilities, I always felt his style was off-putting (not 'incorrect,' which I welcome as with most irreverence). There is a sense throughout his stories that sounds like "aren't I clever." It's pretty insufferable. In fact, once I got his ideas, I found that I didn't want to suffer through that style anymore and have been unable to read his books again despite nostalgia for their initial effects. So the prospects of him being just another corporate pep talk guru on the speaker circuit are really not surprising at all. He no doubt had a taste of these ideas but found his various gifts of persuasion and charisma to be lucrative. I'm sure his 'edginess' is quite titillating at the various sales conferences. I might read his ToE some day. From what has been discussed here so far, though, it doesn't seem to be anything new. |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on May 3, 2013 9:18:30 GMT -5
I'm saying that his TOE is complete nonsense. His error is so fundamental that at some level he must understand that he is wrong and yet it doesn't stop him from presenting himself like he has absolute authority... so either he is knowingly lying or he is deluded. Now, like I said, I'm not competent enough to judge his first book, but for me his errors in the TOE cast a dark shadow over his entire oeuvre. Knowing what I now know about him I can't justify having faith in anything he is saying. Do you know the man personally? How do you know what you think you know about him? And what is it that you believe to know? I've read the first book and 20 pages of the last. You quote a post where I write what I think of him and then you ask me what I think of him? |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 9:22:21 GMT -5
Knowing what I now know about him I can't justify having faith in anything he is saying. I think you said it best when you said "ain't nobody got time for that!" |
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Post by tzujanli on May 3, 2013 9:36:28 GMT -5
[Greetings.. quote author=" maxdprophet" source="/post/117212/thread" timestamp="1367585799"] OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp Personally, it seems more like 'dehydrated water'.. Be well.. |
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Post by topology on May 3, 2013 9:42:09 GMT -5
Do you know the man personally? How do you know what you think you know about him? And what is it that you believe to know? I've read the first book and 20 pages of the last. You quote a post where I write what I think of him and then you ask me what I think of him? You said: "Knowing what I now know about him I can't justify having faith in anything he is saying." What you think of him is obvious, and I'm not asking about that. I was asking what you know of him and how you know of it, besides what he has written. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:08:29 GMT -5
Greetings.. OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp Personally, it seems more like 'dehydrated water'.. Be well.. Well at least that would be a breath of fresh air. |
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Post by tzujanli on May 3, 2013 10:19:14 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Personally, it seems more like 'dehydrated water'.. Be well.. Well at least that would be a breath of fresh air. Exactly.. LOL.. Be well.. |
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Post by enigma on May 3, 2013 11:48:30 GMT -5
OK, so you think that Jed is selling water by the river? Or better yet, you think Jed is selling bottled water, just has his own label but getting it right out of the tap. sdp The selling water by the river story always made me chuckle. These days you're taking your life in your hands by drinking the water from a river. Selling H2O instead of river water by the river might be a service. Methinks a better summation is that Jed is selling bottled river water with his own label. The level of contamination of that water is debatable but should be tested. When I read his first 3 books, which I paid for, I found them total page-turners. I was on a hiatus from steeping in buddhism and some of the things he said were extremely refreshing. I had always thought nirvana was something basically unattainable unless one completely devoted their life to the 8-fold path (become a monk). There was very little I encountered about 'householders' awakening. It was a path of gradualism, progressively whittling away at attachments and suffering. So Jed's pronouncements that Truth exists and that it can be realized for those that dare (via autolysis) was envigorating. He also pointed to other places to look -- Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta, Richard Rose, UG Krishnamurti -- all of those I eagerly dove into. Despite the fresh ideas and new possibilities, I always felt his style was off-putting (not 'incorrect,' which I welcome as with most irreverence). There is a sense throughout his stories that sounds like "aren't I clever." It's pretty insufferable. In fact, once I got his ideas, I found that I didn't want to suffer through that style anymore and have been unable to read his books again despite nostalgia for their initial effects. So the prospects of him being just another corporate pep talk guru on the speaker circuit are really not surprising at all. He no doubt had a taste of these ideas but found his various gifts of persuasion and charisma to be lucrative. I'm sure his 'edginess' is quite titillating at the various sales conferences. I might read his ToE some day. From what has been discussed here so far, though, it doesn't seem to be anything new.Really, it's not. He's just saying everything is consciousness. How he managed to stretch that into a book, I'm still not sure, but I enjoyed it. |
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on May 3, 2013 13:07:03 GMT -5
I've read the first book and 20 pages of the last. You quote a post where I write what I think of him and then you ask me what I think of him? You said: "Knowing what I now know about him I can't justify having faith in anything he is saying." What you think of him is obvious, and I'm not asking about that. I was asking what you know of him and how you know of it, besides what he has written. I don't get it. Can someone please explain to me why he thinks that I haven't answered his question? |
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