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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 22:19:01 GMT -5
Awareness and questioner/helper have the same source, and so when we come full circle they are one. But they are actually not the same... Awareness is the mother of the 10 thousand things (consciousness). If they are actually one, they are actually the same. I agree that the concepts refer to different thingys, but it's also not incorrect to say you are the questioner. Right it isn't incorrect, but one has to be clear about what constitutes the questioner, which is Awareness and Consciousness. Awareness, God, Love, Life, Intelligence is the Now. It doesn't question what it is, it just 'IS' and it is aware that it 'IS'. Just because awareness and consciousness share the same source doesn't mean that they are the same identity. Awareness never changes, yet consciousness is in constant change. Awareness 'IS', while consciousness is 'Imagination'. Awareness and consciousness form a relationship. Awareness (Oneness) and consciousness (Mind) = Oneness, but Awareness is not = to Consciousness. It's a direct experience and not a conceptual thingy. |
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Post by enigma on Aug 8, 2012 22:28:35 GMT -5
If they are actually one, they are actually the same. I agree that the concepts refer to different thingys, but it's also not incorrect to say you are the questioner. Right it isn't incorrect, but one has to be clear about what constitutes the questioner, which is Awareness and Consciousness. Awareness, God, Love, Life, Intelligence is the Now. It doesn't question what it is, it just 'IS' and it is aware that it 'IS'. Just because awareness and consciousness share the same source doesn't mean that they are the same identity. Awareness never changes, yet consciousness is in constant change. Awareness 'IS', while consciousness is 'Imagination'. Awareness and consciousness form a relationship. Awareness (Oneness) and consciousness (Mind) = Oneness, but Awareness is not = to Consciousness. It's a direct experience and not a conceptual thingy. Yes, the person is not awareness, though awareness is the person. A contextual analogy would be the mind. A thought is not the mind and yet the mind is the thought. Or we could say in a dream, the dream character is not the mind, but it happens in/as the mind. |
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Post by silence on Aug 8, 2012 23:18:22 GMT -5
Hey there!  It's the trying to figure out how to live life that can get very frustrating. Endless spiritual material is very seductive for getting trapped in such mental ditches. Hello Silence, I had to double take, thought it was the old Silence coming back to the forum, it's not so welcome! Yes. My motives are to not feel so down and depressed but along with that I know there's more to this than meets the eye and I want to get to the bottom of it. (Of what?!) Yea, it's me. My curiosity got the best of me. Sounds pretty reasonable to not want to be down and depressed. Do you think there's a connection between feeling depressed and chasing some imaginary thingamabob that always seems out of reach? Almost like the more it starts to register that you've been had, the more hopeless the situation becomes. |
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Post by silence on Aug 8, 2012 23:19:01 GMT -5
Hey there! It's the trying to figure out how to live life that can get very frustrating. Endless spiritual material is very seductive for getting trapped in such mental ditches. Same silence? Bonjour! Hey hey. |
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Post by silence on Aug 8, 2012 23:20:38 GMT -5
If they are actually one, they are actually the same. I agree that the concepts refer to different thingys, but it's also not incorrect to say you are the questioner. Right it isn't incorrect, but one has to be clear about what constitutes the questioner, which is Awareness and Consciousness. Awareness, God, Love, Life, Intelligence is the Now. It doesn't question what it is, it just 'IS' and it is aware that it 'IS'. Just because awareness and consciousness share the same source doesn't mean that they are the same identity. Awareness never changes, yet consciousness is in constant change. Awareness 'IS', while consciousness is 'Imagination'. Awareness and consciousness form a relationship. Awareness (Oneness) and consciousness (Mind) = Oneness, but Awareness is not = to Consciousness. It's a direct experience and not a conceptual thingy. Sounds like you've got a pretty elaborate story going. |
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Post by enigma on Aug 8, 2012 23:41:19 GMT -5
Hello Silence, I had to double take, thought it was the old Silence coming back to the forum, it's not so welcome! Yes. My motives are to not feel so down and depressed but along with that I know there's more to this than meets the eye and I want to get to the bottom of it. (Of what?!) Yea, it's me. My curiosity got the best of me. Sounds pretty reasonable to not want to be down and depressed. Do you think there's a connection between feeling depressed and chasing some imaginary thingamabob that always seems out of reach? Almost like the more it starts to register that you've been had, the more hopeless the situation becomes. Good to see you again. |
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Post by esponja on Aug 9, 2012 0:44:18 GMT -5
Hello Silence, I had to double take, thought it was the old Silence coming back to the forum, it's not so welcome! Yes. My motives are to not feel so down and depressed but along with that I know there's more to this than meets the eye and I want to get to the bottom of it. (Of what?!) Yea, it's me. My curiosity got the best of me. Sounds pretty reasonable to not want to be down and depressed. Do you think there's a connection between feeling depressed and chasing some imaginary thingamabob that always seems out of reach? Almost like the more it starts to register that you've been had, the more hopeless the situation becomes. Glad you're back, that didn't last long though lol! As you can see though not much has changed round here Yes there's a feeling of something out of reach. I know that I'll always find something to be unhappy about although the story has been pretty consistent since a young age now that I see it. Anyhow, have decided not to analyse it anymore (well for now) am going to practice mindfulness for a while, if anything it helps balance me out. |
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Post by sharon on Aug 9, 2012 2:07:21 GMT -5
Right it isn't incorrect, but one has to be clear about what constitutes the questioner, which is Awareness and Consciousness. Awareness, God, Love, Life, Intelligence is the Now. It doesn't question what it is, it just 'IS' and it is aware that it 'IS'. Just because awareness and consciousness share the same source doesn't mean that they are the same identity. Awareness never changes, yet consciousness is in constant change. Awareness 'IS', while consciousness is 'Imagination'. Awareness and consciousness form a relationship. Awareness (Oneness) and consciousness (Mind) = Oneness, but Awareness is not = to Consciousness. It's a direct experience and not a conceptual thingy. Sounds like you've got a pretty elaborate story going. Yeah, it looks like he's doing the same jigsaw puzzle over and over again, because there's a piece missing. Don't no-one tell him it's on the floor at his feet. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 4:26:32 GMT -5
The rules are: 'There are no rules.' (applies for any area in life)  Okay, I see you are getting pretty defensive here. So I will stop annoying you. There's no point in exploring this any further at this point in time. Maybe you can answer the questions I've just asked the higher mammal about LOA. When the Dalai Lama was asked what advice he had for parents he smiled meekly and said "You will get better advice from someone who has been a parent." (paraphrase) I know squat about LOA. On wikipedia it says Abraham Hicks was some sort of channeled spirit. I know squat about channeled spirits. Were they parents? |
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Post by silence on Aug 9, 2012 10:33:11 GMT -5
Yea, it's me. My curiosity got the best of me. Sounds pretty reasonable to not want to be down and depressed. Do you think there's a connection between feeling depressed and chasing some imaginary thingamabob that always seems out of reach? Almost like the more it starts to register that you've been had, the more hopeless the situation becomes. Good to see you again. Likewise. |
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Post by silence on Aug 9, 2012 10:50:20 GMT -5
Yea, it's me. My curiosity got the best of me. Sounds pretty reasonable to not want to be down and depressed. Do you think there's a connection between feeling depressed and chasing some imaginary thingamabob that always seems out of reach? Almost like the more it starts to register that you've been had, the more hopeless the situation becomes. Glad you're back, that didn't last long though lol! As you can see though not much has changed round here Yes there's a feeling of something out of reach. I know that I'll always find something to be unhappy about although the story has been pretty consistent since a young age now that I see it. Anyhow, have decided not to analyse it anymore (well for now) am going to practice mindfulness for a while, if anything it helps balance me out. Sure. So long as you recognize that it's a simple matter of focus. No different than if you're sitting in your clean house but there's a smudge on the ceiling you can't reach. You can sit there all day looking at that smudge, or not. What attracts you to a place like this over something else? Is it the appearance of people who have everything all wrapped up who seem like they are never unhappy or have a hard time? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 11:27:14 GMT -5
Right it isn't incorrect, but one has to be clear about what constitutes the questioner, which is Awareness and Consciousness. Awareness, God, Love, Life, Intelligence is the Now. It doesn't question what it is, it just 'IS' and it is aware that it 'IS'. Just because awareness and consciousness share the same source doesn't mean that they are the same identity. Awareness never changes, yet consciousness is in constant change. Awareness 'IS', while consciousness is 'Imagination'. Awareness and consciousness form a relationship. Awareness (Oneness) and consciousness (Mind) = Oneness, but Awareness is not = to Consciousness. It's a direct experience and not a conceptual thingy. Sounds like you've got a pretty elaborate story going. Gnaw, it's really quite simple. But the mind does love a good story, and so it misses the obvious. |
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Post by silence on Aug 9, 2012 12:52:04 GMT -5
Sounds like you've got a pretty elaborate story going. Gnaw, it's really quite simple. But the mind does love a good story, and so it misses the obvious. What's really quite simple? |
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Post by question on Aug 9, 2012 16:09:39 GMT -5
Gnaw, it's really quite simple. But the mind does love a good story, and so it misses the obvious. What's really quite simple? Awareness, God, Love, Life, Now, Consciousness, Self, Intelligence, Truth, Freedom, Peace, Democracy, Justice, America. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2012 21:20:16 GMT -5
What's really quite simple? Awareness, God, Love, Life, Now, Consciousness, Self, Intelligence, Truth, Freedom, Peace, Democracy, Justice, America. ;D |
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