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Post by onehandclapping on Sept 17, 2011 11:15:12 GMT -5
Another thread got me wondering how many folks on here were seekers from birth or became seekers after some event like depression or completion of all the life goals their ego had set forth to accomplish?
I would love to hear your stories if you wish to share.
I was kind of both. I questioned everything as a youth and that lead to some severe depression as a teen. Although if I was forced to choose I would say I've probably been a seeker since birth. At least my mom would say that for all the questions she had to answer for me as a kid. Hahahaha.
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Post by enigma on Sept 17, 2011 11:43:41 GMT -5
Another thread got me wondering how many folks on here were seekers from birth or became seekers after some event like depression or completion of all the life goals their ego had set forth to accomplish? I would love to hear your stories if you wish to share. I was kind of both. I questioned everything as a youth and that lead to some severe depression as a teen. Although if I was forced to choose I would say I've probably been a seeker since birth. At least my mom would say that for all the questions she had to answer for me as a kid. Hahahaha. I know what you're asking but really everybody is seeking from about age 2. All that changes is the object of the seeking. 'Sweet dreams are made of these. Everybody's looking for something.' |
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Post by tylerdurden on Sept 17, 2011 13:48:44 GMT -5
I stayed on this thread page long enough to hear that song. Always loved it since childhood when it came out. Yeah, you could say I have been a seeker my whole life. Never felt I fit in....square peg in a round hole and all that.
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Post by tylerdurden on Sept 17, 2011 14:22:27 GMT -5
The movie, man. I'm not some financial guy.  |
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Post by onehandclapping on Sept 18, 2011 1:12:18 GMT -5
Why do you suppose it takes so long for so many then to begin the search on an external level if they start at 2 E? Most people I saw at different talks from teachers were usually in their 40's or 50's. Is that just a common time for people to break or do you think they just go along with life for a while and fulfill goals and then decide to start?
I get what you mean about the age two thing but I do find it kind of funny that the big seeking time for most are in their mid-life's. Start to realize they are gonna die someday and freak out. Get a Harley. Divorce the wife. Try to recapture their youth through things like curling or fencing or water polo. Hahaha.
Fight club was a great movie!! "His name was Bob!!! His name was Bob!!!!".
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Post by zendancer on Sept 18, 2011 7:50:04 GMT -5
Well, I didn't start seeking at the age of 2, but that's probably because I retained a 1 year old state of mind for about 18 years. Ha ha. My search didn't begin until the age of 19, but more about that later.
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Post by enigma on Sept 18, 2011 10:51:41 GMT -5
Why do you suppose it takes so long for so many then to begin the search on an external level if they start at 2 E? Most people I saw at different talks from teachers were usually in their 40's or 50's. Is that just a common time for people to break or do you think they just go along with life for a while and fulfill goals and then decide to start? I get what you mean about the age two thing but I do find it kind of funny that the big seeking time for most are in their mid-life's. Start to realize they are gonna die someday and freak out. Get a Harley. Divorce the wife. Try to recapture their youth through things like curling or fencing or water polo. Hahaha. Fight club was a great movie!! "His name was Bob!!! His name was Bob!!!!". Around age 2 the 'me' thought appears, (the terrible twos) and everything is MINE! 'I want my toy!' or 'I want my mommy!' isn't different from 'I want my Lexus!' or 'I want my pension!' It's not really different from 'I want enlightenment! Waaaaaaahh!'  However, the internal search can't really begin until the external search is found to be ultimately unsatisfying. |
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Post by onehandclapping on Sept 18, 2011 12:42:10 GMT -5
Hahaha. I want my Lexus!! Waaaaaaahhhhh!
That would be hilarious if folks threw tempertantrums like two year olds.
So do you think its inevitable for folks to not get sucked in? Meaning could you "teach" your kid from early on to stay egoless?
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Post by andrew on Sept 18, 2011 13:01:30 GMT -5
I think that cultural consciousness is also an relevant factor. Even with two parents that are relatively present, children are brought into a world where there is a lot of fear. I think things are changing though, and fast.
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Post by onehandclapping on Sept 18, 2011 18:12:39 GMT -5
Andrew you sound hopeful about this next generation. I watch what they are growing up idolizing I.E. Jersey shore. And I'm fearful! Hahaha
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Post by enigma on Sept 18, 2011 19:03:33 GMT -5
Hahaha. I want my Lexus!! Waaaaaaahhhhh! That would be hilarious if folks threw tempertantrums like two year olds. So do you think its inevitable for folks to not get sucked in? Meaning could you "teach" your kid from early on to stay egoless? It's an interesting question. On one level it seems a lot of issues could be avoided, though the loss of innocence cannot. We often hear that conditioning from others is the problem, but it also seems true that the 'I thought' is inherent in individualized expression. IOW, nobody has to actually inform us that we are separate, because separation is what appears to be the case on the most superficial level, and it's this level that the developing mind explores first. On another level it can be said that no issues can be avoided because we get precisely what we need in order to transcend our own boundaries. Experience, then, becomes an expression of those boundaries rather than the cause of them. |
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Post by acewall on Sept 18, 2011 23:05:39 GMT -5
Another thread got me wondering how many folks on here were seekers from birth or became seekers after some event like depression or completion of all the life goals their ego had set forth to accomplish? I would love to hear your stories if you wish to share. I was kind of both. I questioned everything as a youth and that lead to some severe depression as a teen. Although if I was forced to choose I would say I've probably been a seeker since birth. At least my mom would say that for all the questions she had to answer for me as a kid. Hahahaha. I started to enquire after my dads-funeral. Having been placed in the boxing ring at 5 years of age, I learnt that emotion had no part in Life, so my father said. When father went, so did his conditioning, out with the deluge of 22years of emotions all at once......whereupon i was able to observe the world afresh, through unconditioned empty-mind that left me standing naked, amazed at the sight of the Burning bushes infront of me. When I thought positive thoughts, the bushes burnt higher and when I doubted, the flames grew lower accordingly. Wtf, lead me first to religion for answers, but it was the same ol shit over again, so i began branching-out away from the establishments (who would try to OWN-ME) and into Dens of places whereby i began to learn that I was being easily manipulated; but How? Being of Virgin birth and having three kids and a wife to support, made continuing my new found life a bit of a mystery, as on the onehand, I had a Life to Continue and on the otherhand I had nothing of substance on which settle my enquirey.  |
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Post by acewall on Sept 18, 2011 23:07:05 GMT -5
Well, I didn't start seeking at the age of 2, but that's probably because I retained a 1 year old state of mind for about 18 years. Ha ha. My search didn't begin until the age of 19, but more about that later. LOLolol I had my fathers mind for 27years!  |
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Post by acewall on Sept 18, 2011 23:08:32 GMT -5
Why do you suppose it takes so long for so many then to begin the search on an external level if they start at 2 E? Most people I saw at different talks from teachers were usually in their 40's or 50's. Is that just a common time for people to break or do you think they just go along with life for a while and fulfill goals and then decide to start? I get what you mean about the age two thing but I do find it kind of funny that the big seeking time for most are in their mid-life's. Start to realize they are gonna die someday and freak out. Get a Harley. Divorce the wife. Try to recapture their youth through things like curling or fencing or water polo. Hahaha. Fight club was a great movie!! "His name was Bob!!! His name was Bob!!!!". Around age 2 the 'me' thought appears, (the terrible twos) and everything is MINE! 'I want my toy!' or 'I want my mommy!' isn't different from 'I want my Lexus!' or 'I want my pension!' It's not really different from 'I want enlightenment! Waaaaaaahh!' However, the internal search can't really begin until the external search is found to be ultimately unsatisfying. 'I want enlightenment! Waaaaaaahh!' LOLolol ;D |
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Post by andrew on Sept 19, 2011 2:21:07 GMT -5
Andrew you sound hopeful about this next generation. I watch what they are growing up idolizing I.E. Jersey shore. And I'm fearful! Hahaha Hahaha I know what you mean! I might be wrong, but what I see is a big increase in spiritual interest. And I kind of think....if Im doing this stuff and Im really just a pretty regular guy with regular parents from a regular background....then anyone can do it! I get the feeling that it may not be quite so apparent in the US because its such a big spread out place, but here in the UK, 'spirituality' has infiltrated popular culture. Alternative therapies, complimentary medicine, holistic practices....its all kind of the norm these days here I think. Or at the very least, its not considered to be a total joke anymore! |
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