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Post by michaelsees on Jan 21, 2011 1:53:41 GMT -5
Watch complete satsang free click on link below. Title-Call off the Search video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7249271322674944820#
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(Save this link there are many full length satsangs/talks on this page unlike youtube google does not limit time or size so here you can have 1,2,3 hr talks)
joy Michael |
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Post by ebanrep on Mar 1, 2011 18:02:45 GMT -5
Ramana Maharshi taught a great paradox:
1. There is no self (no ego) to be realized.
2. There is a Self to be realized through grace, "anthara vichara" (internal self-inquiry), and "aham-vritti" (mental modification of 'I').
Papaji was Ramana Maharshi's student, but his teachings only uphold the first aspect of Maharshi's paradox. While traditional advaita often causes the "endless cycle of seeking" (aspect #2), Papaji imposes aspect #1 as the counter-solution. But one side of Maharshi's paradox has no more value than the other; both sides must be seen and understood paradoxically.
Papaji is not even a "direct-path" teacher. "Direct" points to aspect # 1, but "path" paradoxically points to aspect # 2. For Papaji, there is absolutely no path. This is not what Ramana Maharshi taught.
(Note: For the Papaji and Andrew Cohen fans out there, Papaji gave an enlightenment blessing to Andrew. In his "Autobiography of an Awakening", Andrew admits that Papaji accused him for "corrupting the dharma." Papaji gave enlightenment blessings to Mooji, Gangaji, and Neelam, but to my knowledge, there were no conflicts with Papaji there.)
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Post by sherry on Mar 5, 2011 5:44:23 GMT -5
Appreciate the link the the google videos. Some good stuff there. Thanks, Michael.
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 8, 2011 22:10:46 GMT -5
Here's a great paradox Ramana Maharshi taught: 1. There is no self (no ego) to be realized. 2. There is a Self to be realized through grace, "anthara vichara" (internal self-inquiry), and "aham-vritti" (mental modification of 'I'). Papaji was Ramana Maharshi's student, but his teachings only uphold the first aspect of Maharshi's paradox. While traditional advaita often causes the "endless cycle of seeking" (aspect #2), Papaji imposes aspect #1 as the counter-solution. But one side of Maharshi's paradox has no more value than the other; both sides must be seen and understood paradoxically. There is no paradox here my friend. Real Advaita masters as Ramana will always use a small (s) for the personal self and a big (S) for the absolute But still enjoyed reading your comments Michael |
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Post by michaelsees on Mar 8, 2011 22:11:07 GMT -5
Appreciate the link the the google videos. Some good stuff there. Thanks, Michael. ;D |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 2, 2016 8:37:21 GMT -5
Watch complete satsang free click on link below. Title-Call off the Search video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7249271322674944820#
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(Save this link there are many full length satsangs/talks on this page unlike youtube google does not limit time or size so here you can have 1,2,3 hr talks)
joy Michael ........bumped........ |
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Post by alanantic on Sept 17, 2016 21:06:34 GMT -5
Here's a great paradox Ramana Maharshi taught: 1. There is no self (no ego) to be realized. 2. There is a Self to be realized through grace, "anthara vichara" (internal self-inquiry), and "aham-vritti" (mental modification of 'I'). Papaji was Ramana Maharshi's student, but his teachings only uphold the first aspect of Maharshi's paradox. While traditional advaita often causes the "endless cycle of seeking" (aspect #2), Papaji imposes aspect #1 as the counter-solution. But one side of Maharshi's paradox has no more value than the other; both sides must be seen and understood paradoxically. There is no paradox here my friend. Real Advaita masters as Ramana will always use a small (s) for the personal self and a big (S) for the absolute But still enjoyed reading your comments Michael |
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Post by alanantic on Sept 17, 2016 21:09:55 GMT -5
You may be wrong about that.
"What is the difference between the enlightened and the unenlightened? The unenlightened see a difference."
Of course, it's all a paradox and what do I know.
"Those who say, don't know, and those who know, don't say."
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