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Post by lopezcabellero on May 9, 2019 13:56:49 GMT -5
How does it go?
It seems we share a common thread of intelligence. We come to this place to discuss realizations and understandings and the differences and what life is like compared to what life was like laced of course from our level of consciousness, how aware we are of our mind functioning, or how disidentified being is from what seems to be being.
If you can have an experience of awareness absent mind or body, and you can remember it, is your mind really absent?
If consciousness is everything, is it consciousness thinking and behaving unconsciously when a head is removed with a machete, and held up for all to see, or is that an unconscious mind and body, an insane person?
Have it your way, I suppose. That's the message of the day, the theme of the year, and the undercurrent of life as we know it. Think how you want. Feel how you feel. Construct a reality to fit your conditioning, and defend it. Or better yet. Poke it for holes, and destroy it. Dismantle yourself. Come undone. Lose your mind. Open heart surgery from the observation deck. Should have thought twice about that last cheeseburger.
How did spirituality put a lid on desire and passion? Who is it that called personal disassociation the early onset of an insane personality? Maybe your therapist needs therapy. Maybe your teacher needs some teaching. I've read some recent stuff on here. Nice to read pure gold when it presents itself. A lot of toxicity, at times, but that's just emotional unconsciousness. Meaning, consciousness unconscious of the emotional body in consciousness. Our minds or personal selves have this remarkable ability that brings short term gain through compensation but leads to long term disability through loss of self control coupled to presence of self avoidance.
Lots of teachers talk about compensation. Meaning, seeking an enhanced sense of self to compensate for a deficient sense of self. This is how most people become one with the universe. The hurt self is traded for the enlightened self, and as the enlightened self doesn't technically exist, becoming enlightened is the very idea which blocks any chance of actual enlightenment. So, nobody becomes one, because you can only unbecome two. What a crock!
You can even pick up an emotional injury unconsciously. Meaning, you can compartmentalize a sense of personal self by seeing your self is unlike and perceived to be worse than other selves, unconsciously. An 11 year old girl asked her Grandmother, "Mommy, if you're my Mommy and you're also my Daddy's Mommy, then isn't my Daddy my brother?"
The Grandmother responded, "do you remember another lady that used to hold you? And be with you?"
You see, this particular girl lost her mother to a heart attack when she was two years old. She sat next to the body for hours before anyone came to notice. The mother was only 23 years old, skinny as a rail, and died the exact same way her mother died before her at the age of 35, when she was only 4.
"No, I don't remember anyone", said the granddaughter.
The Grandmother said, "I am your mother, and I've always been with you. But I'm not the Mommy that carried you in her stomach. That Mommy is the lady in all those pictures I show you. She's in the picture on your dresser, and she's an angel that will always be with you."
The granddaughter broke down in tears. The truth had set her pain free. She knew something wasn't right, but she was unconscious of what she knew. She was also brave enough to inquire, or maybe just tired of carrying pain.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 10:25:13 GMT -5
How does it go? It seems we share a common thread of intelligence. We come to this place to discuss realizations and understandings and the differences and what life is like compared to what life was like laced of course from our level of consciousness, how aware we are of our mind functioning, or how disidentified being is from what seems to be being. If you can have an experience of awareness absent mind or body, and you can remember it, is your mind really absent? If consciousness is everything, is it consciousness thinking and behaving unconsciously when a head is removed with a machete, and held up for all to see, or is that an unconscious mind and body, an insane person? Have it your way, I suppose. That's the message of the day, the theme of the year, and the undercurrent of life as we know it. Think how you want. Feel how you feel. Construct a reality to fit your conditioning, and defend it. Or better yet. Poke it for holes, and destroy it. Dismantle yourself. Come undone. Lose your mind. Open heart surgery from the observation deck. Should have thought twice about that last cheeseburger. How did spirituality put a lid on desire and passion? Who is it that called personal disassociation the early onset of an insane personality? Maybe your therapist needs therapy. Maybe your teacher needs some teaching. I've read some recent stuff on here. Nice to read pure gold when it presents itself. A lot of toxicity, at times, but that's just emotional unconsciousness. Meaning, consciousness unconscious of the emotional body in consciousness. Our minds or personal selves have this remarkable ability that brings short term gain through compensation but leads to long term disability through loss of self control coupled to presence of self avoidance. Lots of teachers talk about compensation. Meaning, seeking an enhanced sense of self to compensate for a deficient sense of self. This is how most people become one with the universe. The hurt self is traded for the enlightened self, and as the enlightened self doesn't technically exist, becoming enlightened is the very idea which blocks any chance of actual enlightenment. So, nobody becomes one, because you can only unbecome two. What a crock! You can even pick up an emotional injury unconsciously. Meaning, you can compartmentalize a sense of personal self by seeing your self is unlike and perceived to be worse than other selves, unconsciously. An 11 year old girl asked her Grandmother, "Mommy, if you're my Mommy and you're also my Daddy's Mommy, then isn't my Daddy my brother?" The Grandmother responded, "do you remember another lady that used to hold you? And be with you?" You see, this particular girl lost her mother to a heart attack when she was two years old. She sat next to the body for hours before anyone came to notice. The mother was only 23 years old, skinny as a rail, and died the exact same way her mother died before her at the age of 35, when she was only 4. "No, I don't remember anyone", said the granddaughter. The Grandmother said, "I am your mother, and I've always been with you. But I'm not the Mommy that carried you in her stomach. That Mommy is the lady in all those pictures I show you. She's in the picture on your dresser, and she's an angel that will always be with you." The granddaughter broke down in tears. The truth had set her pain free. She knew something wasn't right, but she was unconscious of what she knew. She was also brave enough to inquire, or maybe just tired of carrying pain. I love the paragraph about compensation, replacing the hurt self with the enlightened self. This is definitely true for me and for others as well afraid they will lose something if they give up the charade. It's sad. Eventually, inevitably the dam bursts. There's too much to compensate for.
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Post by lopezcabellero on Jun 2, 2019 12:04:56 GMT -5
How does it go? It seems we share a common thread of intelligence. We come to this place to discuss realizations and understandings and the differences and what life is like compared to what life was like laced of course from our level of consciousness, how aware we are of our mind functioning, or how disidentified being is from what seems to be being. If you can have an experience of awareness absent mind or body, and you can remember it, is your mind really absent? If consciousness is everything, is it consciousness thinking and behaving unconsciously when a head is removed with a machete, and held up for all to see, or is that an unconscious mind and body, an insane person? Have it your way, I suppose. That's the message of the day, the theme of the year, and the undercurrent of life as we know it. Think how you want. Feel how you feel. Construct a reality to fit your conditioning, and defend it. Or better yet. Poke it for holes, and destroy it. Dismantle yourself. Come undone. Lose your mind. Open heart surgery from the observation deck. Should have thought twice about that last cheeseburger. How did spirituality put a lid on desire and passion? Who is it that called personal disassociation the early onset of an insane personality? Maybe your therapist needs therapy. Maybe your teacher needs some teaching. I've read some recent stuff on here. Nice to read pure gold when it presents itself. A lot of toxicity, at times, but that's just emotional unconsciousness. Meaning, consciousness unconscious of the emotional body in consciousness. Our minds or personal selves have this remarkable ability that brings short term gain through compensation but leads to long term disability through loss of self control coupled to presence of self avoidance. Lots of teachers talk about compensation. Meaning, seeking an enhanced sense of self to compensate for a deficient sense of self. This is how most people become one with the universe. The hurt self is traded for the enlightened self, and as the enlightened self doesn't technically exist, becoming enlightened is the very idea which blocks any chance of actual enlightenment. So, nobody becomes one, because you can only unbecome two. What a crock! You can even pick up an emotional injury unconsciously. Meaning, you can compartmentalize a sense of personal self by seeing your self is unlike and perceived to be worse than other selves, unconsciously. An 11 year old girl asked her Grandmother, "Mommy, if you're my Mommy and you're also my Daddy's Mommy, then isn't my Daddy my brother?" The Grandmother responded, "do you remember another lady that used to hold you? And be with you?" You see, this particular girl lost her mother to a heart attack when she was two years old. She sat next to the body for hours before anyone came to notice. The mother was only 23 years old, skinny as a rail, and died the exact same way her mother died before her at the age of 35, when she was only 4. "No, I don't remember anyone", said the granddaughter. The Grandmother said, "I am your mother, and I've always been with you. But I'm not the Mommy that carried you in her stomach. That Mommy is the lady in all those pictures I show you. She's in the picture on your dresser, and she's an angel that will always be with you." The granddaughter broke down in tears. The truth had set her pain free. She knew something wasn't right, but she was unconscious of what she knew. She was also brave enough to inquire, or maybe just tired of carrying pain. I love the paragraph about compensation, replacing the hurt self with the enlightened self. This is definitely true for me and for others as well afraid they will lose something if they give up the charade. It's sad. Eventually, inevitably the dam bursts. There's too much to compensate for. I actually meant to dial back around to this one. On the story of the mother who died early, when the grandmother told the young girl her mother was an angel with her, this really couldn't be further from the truth, although we would expect her spirit to have a large influence on her daughter, however misguided. As the story went, the mother passed and then the father went mad. He attempted to kill himself before an exorcism was performed on him with limited success. If not only an example of willingness to see through one's compensatory identity on the part of the young girl, this is also a somewhat horrifying expression of what happens when humans remain in the emotionally unconscious state. You are correct to say that others are afraid they might lose something if they give up the charade, and to the extent one is tied into the personality addictions and facade of others, they will gain the role of target for attack until causal emotions are addressed and those types of value degrading attractions eviscerated. Meaning, as one deconstructs one's ego, others who depend on your ego will attempt to stop you. This can be through attack or reward, and when someone mistakes reward for God's gift or attack for God's wrath, the dam will reconstruct. The human experience is a language of emotion, and the more we don't listen, the more out of harmony desire and conditions will be. It's never too late to listen, but it's not always the right time for lasting change. There has to be a readiness, or earnestness, or seriousness of intention. And that doesn't grow on trees.
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Post by bryan on Aug 9, 2019 6:59:10 GMT -5
How does it go? It seems we share a common thread of intelligence. We come to this place to discuss realizations and understandings and the differences and what life is like compared to what life was like laced of course from our level of consciousness, how aware we are of our mind functioning, or how disidentified being is from what seems to be being. If you can have an experience of awareness absent mind or body, and you can remember it, is your mind really absent? If consciousness is everything, is it consciousness thinking and behaving unconsciously when a head is removed with a machete, and held up for all to see, or is that an unconscious mind and body, an insane person? Have it your way, I suppose. That's the message of the day, the theme of the year, and the undercurrent of life as we know it. Think how you want. Feel how you feel. Construct a reality to fit your conditioning, and defend it. Or better yet. Poke it for holes, and destroy it. Dismantle yourself. Come undone. Lose your mind. Open heart surgery from the observation deck. Should have thought twice about that last cheeseburger. How did spirituality put a lid on desire and passion? Who is it that called personal disassociation the early onset of an insane personality? Maybe your therapist needs therapy. Maybe your teacher needs some teaching. I've read some recent stuff on here. Nice to read pure gold when it presents itself. A lot of toxicity, at times, but that's just emotional unconsciousness. Meaning, consciousness unconscious of the emotional body in consciousness. Our minds or personal selves have this remarkable ability that brings short term gain through compensation but leads to long term disability through loss of self control coupled to presence of self avoidance. Lots of teachers talk about compensation. Meaning, seeking an enhanced sense of self to compensate for a deficient sense of self. This is how most people become one with the universe. The hurt self is traded for the enlightened self, and as the enlightened self doesn't technically exist, becoming enlightened is the very idea which blocks any chance of actual enlightenment. So, nobody becomes one, because you can only unbecome two. What a crock! You can even pick up an emotional injury unconsciously. Meaning, you can compartmentalize a sense of personal self by seeing your self is unlike and perceived to be worse than other selves, unconsciously. An 11 year old girl asked her Grandmother, "Mommy, if you're my Mommy and you're also my Daddy's Mommy, then isn't my Daddy my brother?" The Grandmother responded, "do you remember another lady that used to hold you? And be with you?" You see, this particular girl lost her mother to a heart attack when she was two years old. She sat next to the body for hours before anyone came to notice. The mother was only 23 years old, skinny as a rail, and died the exact same way her mother died before her at the age of 35, when she was only 4. "No, I don't remember anyone", said the granddaughter. The Grandmother said, "I am your mother, and I've always been with you. But I'm not the Mommy that carried you in her stomach. That Mommy is the lady in all those pictures I show you. She's in the picture on your dresser, and she's an angel that will always be with you." The granddaughter broke down in tears. The truth had set her pain free. She knew something wasn't right, but she was unconscious of what she knew. She was also brave enough to inquire, or maybe just tired of carrying pain. "maybe your therapist needs therapy?" hahahahahaha i had a friend michael in la jolla california. he lived in a big marble mansion with a tree atrium in the middle. he had his "toy boy" who was about 40 years younger. michael popped tranquilizers like they were breath mints. he gave them to his friends also. anyways michael told me about his childhood. he went to boarding schools in europe. when he would go home to NYC his mother used to lock him in the closet and burn him with cigarettes. michael was a psychiatrist. he made 100s of $$$ per hour back in the 1980s. IN MY EXPERIENCE MOST PEOPLE BECOME PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTROL FREAKS THAT WANT TO CONTROL THE WORLD AROUND THEM. why? because they had no control when they were children. they have no control inside. what psychiatrists and psychologists are really trying to do is CONTROL OTHERS and by doing so are ultimately trying to fix themselves it is the same idea of those that help others are really trying to help themselves
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Post by bluey on Aug 9, 2019 18:18:50 GMT -5
Maybe your therapist needs therapy is a point made in Mariana Caplans book Do You Need A Guru. As she had interviewed many teachers after awakening to see how they've got on with everyday relationships. It's a good read.
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Post by lopezcabellero on Aug 10, 2019 14:06:00 GMT -5
How does it go? It seems we share a common thread of intelligence. We come to this place to discuss realizations and understandings and the differences and what life is like compared to what life was like laced of course from our level of consciousness, how aware we are of our mind functioning, or how disidentified being is from what seems to be being. If you can have an experience of awareness absent mind or body, and you can remember it, is your mind really absent? If consciousness is everything, is it consciousness thinking and behaving unconsciously when a head is removed with a machete, and held up for all to see, or is that an unconscious mind and body, an insane person? Have it your way, I suppose. That's the message of the day, the theme of the year, and the undercurrent of life as we know it. Think how you want. Feel how you feel. Construct a reality to fit your conditioning, and defend it. Or better yet. Poke it for holes, and destroy it. Dismantle yourself. Come undone. Lose your mind. Open heart surgery from the observation deck. Should have thought twice about that last cheeseburger. How did spirituality put a lid on desire and passion? Who is it that called personal disassociation the early onset of an insane personality? Maybe your therapist needs therapy. Maybe your teacher needs some teaching. I've read some recent stuff on here. Nice to read pure gold when it presents itself. A lot of toxicity, at times, but that's just emotional unconsciousness. Meaning, consciousness unconscious of the emotional body in consciousness. Our minds or personal selves have this remarkable ability that brings short term gain through compensation but leads to long term disability through loss of self control coupled to presence of self avoidance. Lots of teachers talk about compensation. Meaning, seeking an enhanced sense of self to compensate for a deficient sense of self. This is how most people become one with the universe. The hurt self is traded for the enlightened self, and as the enlightened self doesn't technically exist, becoming enlightened is the very idea which blocks any chance of actual enlightenment. So, nobody becomes one, because you can only unbecome two. What a crock! You can even pick up an emotional injury unconsciously. Meaning, you can compartmentalize a sense of personal self by seeing your self is unlike and perceived to be worse than other selves, unconsciously. An 11 year old girl asked her Grandmother, "Mommy, if you're my Mommy and you're also my Daddy's Mommy, then isn't my Daddy my brother?" The Grandmother responded, "do you remember another lady that used to hold you? And be with you?" You see, this particular girl lost her mother to a heart attack when she was two years old. She sat next to the body for hours before anyone came to notice. The mother was only 23 years old, skinny as a rail, and died the exact same way her mother died before her at the age of 35, when she was only 4. "No, I don't remember anyone", said the granddaughter. The Grandmother said, "I am your mother, and I've always been with you. But I'm not the Mommy that carried you in her stomach. That Mommy is the lady in all those pictures I show you. She's in the picture on your dresser, and she's an angel that will always be with you." The granddaughter broke down in tears. The truth had set her pain free. She knew something wasn't right, but she was unconscious of what she knew. She was also brave enough to inquire, or maybe just tired of carrying pain. "maybe your therapist needs therapy?" hahahahahaha i had a friend michael in la jolla california. he lived in a big marble mansion with a tree atrium in the middle. he had his "toy boy" who was about 40 years younger. michael popped tranquilizers like they were breath mints. he gave them to his friends also. anyways michael told me about his childhood. he went to boarding schools in europe. when he would go home to NYC his mother used to lock him in the closet and burn him with cigarettes. michael was a psychiatrist. he made 100s of $$$ per hour back in the 1980s. IN MY EXPERIENCE MOST PEOPLE BECOME PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTROL FREAKS THAT WANT TO CONTROL THE WORLD AROUND THEM. why? because they had no control when they were children. they have no control inside. what psychiatrists and psychologists are really trying to do is CONTROL OTHERS and by doing so are ultimately trying to fix themselvesit is the same idea of those that help others are really trying to help themselves Valid point. That's why genuine cases of healing involve healing yourself. Even a trained psychologist can only guide someone to their own healing.
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