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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 27, 2019 15:44:32 GMT -5
"Trial and error, action and reaction (feedback)...namely, the "response cycle"...is at the center of perception. Engaging with the world gives our brain a historical record of experiential feedback that sculpts the neural architecture of the brain. That architecture, and the resulting perceptions that ensue, are our reality. In short, our brain is history and little else...a physical manifestation of your past (individually, culturally and evollutionarily) with the capacity to adapt to a new "future past".
Here is how it works at a cellular level. Neurons, or nerve cells, and trillions of connections between them, make up the integrative network of your brain, serving as a breathtakingly complex "back office" supporting and generating the ...we hope...smooth functioning of the main enterprise, you (emphasis sdp). The different sensory receptors receive all the information from the environment that you give them and then forward it, or send it backwards, to all the right places. Inside each neuron is yet another complex network consisting of membranes, proteins, DNA, and enzymes. Every time a new pulse of information ripples in, your internal network alters according to the time, frequency, and duration of the new "data". This in turn affects the composition of all those members. proteins, acids, and enzymes, and ultimately the actual physical physical physiological structure of the neuron. Since these neurons and the evolving structure of the network are the basis on which you make decisions (emphasis sdp) in relation to your body and the world around you, this process shapes you.
...Since this past determines the physical makeup of your brain, it also determines how you will think and behave now and in the future". ...We are not just outsiders of the world defined by our "essential properties". Like the whirlpool, we are defined by our interactions; we are defined by our ecology. It is how our brains makes sense of the meaninglessness". pg 69 Deviate, The Science of Seeing Differently by Beau Lotto, 2017
A baby is not born able to perceive the world in a way that is understandable. A baby's senses takes in data, and through the process of learning-giving-meaning, a baby learns to make sense of the world, learns to structure the world. And then on the basis of that learning-meaning, further learning takes place, that is, what has been learned forms the basis of further learning. (That is, when sensory information enters, part of the process of perceiving is that data being compared to already existing data, and already-existing-data becomes part-of-the-mix of the final perception. That is, what is perceived is crafted by already existing information, all this being done unconsciously of course. This is why it is so difficult to get past one's conditioning). The meaning/learned structure is not impartial but is mixed with the information which constitutes the self. We generally call all this, conditioning. Later in life it is not so easy to separate the conditioned self from conditioned learning-meaning of how we have structured the world.
All this means conditioning is particular, meaning subjective, to any one mind-brain-body.
"The man with insight enough to admit his limitations comes nearest to perfection". Goethe (pg 40 Deviate)
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 1, 2019 16:34:49 GMT -5
"Ecology simply means the interactive relationship between things and the physical space in which they exist. It's a way of saying environment that between captures the fluid, in extricably connected nature of things that occupy it. Since our ecology determines how we adapt and, in adapting, innovate; and since adapting means our brains physically change, the logical conclusion is the your ecology actually shapes your brain (and that your reshaped brain results in a change in behaviors that in turn shape your environment). It creates an empirical history of trial and error that molds the functional architecture of your cerebral tissues, and your neural tissue molds the world around it through the physical interaction of your body. You and all your subsequent perceptions are a direct, physiological manifestation of your past perceptual meanings, and your past is largely your interaction with your environment, and thus your ecology. It is precisely because...and not in spite...of the fact that you don't see reality that you are able to fluidly adapt and change. Sit with this idea: Not seeing reality is essential to our ability to adapt.
Since your brain is constantly occupied with the task of making sense of inherently meaningless information, this interpretative process means your neural process is a never-pausing tool of engagement. This is what accounts for the miracle of plasticity, protean, and evolvable nature of your mind". pg 83 Deviate, Lotto
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Post by krsnaraja on Mar 1, 2019 17:51:43 GMT -5
Since your brain is constantly occupied with the task of making sense of inherently meaningless information, this interpretative process means your neural process is a never-pausing tool of engagement. This is what accounts for the miracle of plasticity, protean, and evolvable nature of your mind". pg 83 Deviate, Lotto Mental stress /anxiety causes the hypothalamus of the brain to loose control over the pituitary gland. The latter called the master gland produces stimulating hormones that stimulate the endocrine organs of the body. Failure of the hypothalamus to regulate the pituitary gland causes endocrine disorders say, hyperthyroidism, diabetes mellitus, increase blood levels of stress hormones like adrenaline, cortisol. Eventually this will lead to abnormal mitosis of the cells in the body, depression of the immune system. All of which causes cancer. So, what to do?
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 2, 2019 14:14:34 GMT -5
Since your brain is constantly occupied with the task of making sense of inherently meaningless information, this interpretative process means your neural process is a never-pausing tool of engagement. This is what accounts for the miracle of plasticity, protean, and evolvable nature of your mind". pg 83 Deviate, Lotto Mental stress /anxiety causes the hypothalamus of the brain to loose control over the pituitary gland. The latter called the master gland produces stimulating hormones that stimulate the endocrine organs of the body. Failure of the hypothalamus to regulate the pituitary gland causes endocrine disorders say, hyperthyroidism, diabetes mellitus, increase blood levels of stress hormones like adrenaline, cortisol. Eventually this will lead to abnormal mitosis of the cells in the body, depression of the immune system. All of which causes cancer. So, what to do? You have to break the feedback loop.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 2, 2019 14:31:23 GMT -5
"All perception is just your brain's construction of past utility (or "empirical significance of information"). This is a scientific fact, and admittedly quite a strange one. But how does this happen? Where does the construction take place? The answer becomes clear once you understand how our senses rely very little on the external world, but more on our internal world for iinterpretation.
As we saw in the introduction, only 10% of the information your brain uses to see comes from your eyes. The other 90% comes from other areas of the brain. This is because for every one connection from the eyes (via the thalamus) to the primary visual cortex, there are ten connections from other cortical regions. Moreover, for every one connection going to the visual cortex from the eyes (again via the thalamus), there are ten going back the other way, dramatically affecting the information coming from the eyes. In terms of information flow, then, our eyes have very little to do with seeing. This seeing i9s done by our brain's sophisticated network making sense of the visual sensory information. This is why the adage seeing is believing gets it all wrong.
The complex process separating you from reality bis actually quite staggering, but at the same time breathtakingly successful. Which brings us to a very important question: What does it mean to see the meaning of meaningless information, and how can past meanings possibly limit present ones"? pgs 110, 111
"...our perceptual brains have no access to physical reality...ever. pg 104 Deviate, Lotto
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 2, 2019 14:45:05 GMT -5
Reading more of Deviate this afternoon I saw something pretty cool, the basis of ND. Lotto says we never ever perceive external physical reality, all we ever perceive is our own brain's constructs of representations of ~what's out there~. So there quite literally is no two, there is only perception of our own representations.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 2, 2019 15:12:12 GMT -5
"Illusions themselves...are an illusion! If the brain evolved to see things as they truly are, then yes, illusions would exist. But since the brain didn't evolve to see accurately, only usefully, they don't. Our conventional conception of illusion is flawed, then, since implicit in the concept is that we evolved to see the world as it actually is. As you know now, we didn't. We can't see reality, so we evolved to what was useful to see in the past. Which means it comes down to this: Either everything is an illusion, or nothing is. And the reality is that nothing is.
In order to see differently, we must first see seeing itself differently. This is important in a deep, lived sense beyond just the visual. After all, the world is in constant flux. ...Contexts are always changing, so our perception must change too. Getting a stronger sense of the principles of your own brain allows you to see how subtly past experience not only biases us, but creates us. Knowing this, you can learn to take ownership over your brain's perception of future possibilities.
In essence, living is nothing other than experiencing continual trial and error. Living is empirical". pgs 118, 119 Deviate, Lotto
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Post by krsnaraja on Mar 2, 2019 17:43:25 GMT -5
Mental stress /anxiety causes the hypothalamus of the brain to loose control over the pituitary gland. The latter called the master gland produces stimulating hormones that stimulate the endocrine organs of the body. Failure of the hypothalamus to regulate the pituitary gland causes endocrine disorders say, hyperthyroidism, diabetes mellitus, increase blood levels of stress hormones like adrenaline, cortisol. Eventually this will lead to abnormal mitosis of the cells in the body, depression of the immune system. All of which causes cancer. So, what to do? You have to break the feedback loop. If I break the feedback loop will that cure cancer? Do you have a study on this? That it will also cure mental anxiety /disease? Why not just use drugs?
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 2, 2019 18:43:53 GMT -5
You have to break the feedback loop. If I break the feedback loop will that cure cancer? Do you have a study on this? That it will also cure mental anxiety /disease? Why not just use drugs? Prime principle: If you find yourself in a hole that just keeps getting deeper, quit digging.
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Post by krsnaraja on Mar 2, 2019 18:55:37 GMT -5
If I break the feedback loop will that cure cancer? Do you have a study on this? That it will also cure mental anxiety /disease? Why not just use drugs? Prime principle: If you find yourself in a hole that just keeps getting deeper, quit digging. It depends on what type of hole you went in. Was it a sinking hole, hole in the head, a hole in the wall, or a hole where the baby comes out? Oh well, it's really hard to get answers from one who has no clinical experience.
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Post by enigma on Mar 2, 2019 21:06:19 GMT -5
"All perception is just your brain's construction of past utility (or "empirical significance of information"). This is a scientific fact, and admittedly quite a strange one. But how does this happen? Where does the construction take place? The answer becomes clear once you understand how our senses rely very little on the external world, but more on our internal world for iinterpretation. As we saw in the introduction, only 10% of the information your brain uses to see comes from your eyes. The other 90% comes from other areas of the brain. This is because for every one connection from the eyes (via the thalamus) to the primary visual cortex, there are ten connections from other cortical regions. Moreover, for every one connection going to the visual cortex from the eyes (again via the thalamus), there are ten going back the other way, dramatically affecting the information coming from the eyes. In terms of information flow, then, our eyes have very little to do with seeing. This seeing i9s done by our brain's sophisticated network making sense of the visual sensory information. This is why the adage seeing is believing gets it all wrong. The complex process separating you from reality bis actually quite staggering, but at the same time breathtakingly successful. Which brings us to a very important question: What does it mean to see the meaning of meaningless information, and how can past meanings possibly limit present ones"? pgs 110, 111 "... our perceptual brains have no access to physical reality...ever. pg 104 Deviate, Lotto Since there is no physical reality, the point is moot. There is only what appears in consciousness.
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Post by krsnaraja on Mar 2, 2019 21:26:58 GMT -5
"All perception is just your brain's construction of past utility (or "empirical significance of information"). This is a scientific fact, and admittedly quite a strange one. But how does this happen? Where does the construction take place? The answer becomes clear once you understand how our senses rely very little on the external world, but more on our internal world for iinterpretation. As we saw in the introduction, only 10% of the information your brain uses to see comes from your eyes. The other 90% comes from other areas of the brain. This is because for every one connection from the eyes (via the thalamus) to the primary visual cortex, there are ten connections from other cortical regions. Moreover, for every one connection going to the visual cortex from the eyes (again via the thalamus), there are ten going back the other way, dramatically affecting the information coming from the eyes. In terms of information flow, then, our eyes have very little to do with seeing. This seeing i9s done by our brain's sophisticated network making sense of the visual sensory information. This is why the adage seeing is believing gets it all wrong. The complex process separating you from reality bis actually quite staggering, but at the same time breathtakingly successful. Which brings us to a very important question: What does it mean to see the meaning of meaningless information, and how can past meanings possibly limit present ones"? pgs 110, 111 "... our perceptual brains have no access to physical reality...ever. pg 104 Deviate, Lotto Since there is no physical reality, the point is moot. There is only what appears in consciousness. Will you show me there's only what appears in Consciousness?
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Post by enigma on Mar 2, 2019 21:34:41 GMT -5
Reading more of Deviate this afternoon I saw something pretty cool, the basis of ND. Lotto says we never ever perceive external physical reality, all we ever perceive is our own brain's constructs of representations of ~what's out there~. So there quite literally is no two, there is only perception of our own representations. Interpretation of what's 'out there' still presupposes an 'out there' vs 'in here', which is already duality even before the conclusion that there is no duality is derived. And in the process you're describing, the external object of perception doesn't go away, it's just not the final perception. There are still apparently two. Also, duality refers to much more that sensory perception. The mind is a duality creator and everything that appears in it is dualistic by nature. Mind literally imagines two with every thought. The basis of nonduality is that everything appearing in mind is illusion.
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Post by enigma on Mar 2, 2019 21:53:40 GMT -5
" Illusions themselves...are an illusion! If the brain evolved to see things as they truly are, then yes, illusions would exist. But since the brain didn't evolve to see accurately, only usefully, they don't. Our conventional conception of illusion is flawed, then, since implicit in the concept is that we evolved to see the world as it actually is. As you know now, we didn't. We can't see reality, so we evolved to what was useful to see in the past. Which means it comes down to this: Either everything is an illusion, or nothing is. And the reality is that nothing is.In order to see differently, we must first see seeing itself differently. This is important in a deep, lived sense beyond just the visual. After all, the world is in constant flux. ...Contexts are always changing, so our perception must change too. Getting a stronger sense of the principles of your own brain allows you to see how subtly past experience not only biases us, but creates us. Knowing this, you can learn to take ownership over your brain's perception of future possibilities. In essence, living is nothing other than experiencing continual trial and error. Living is empirical". pgs 118, 119 Deviate, Lotto Illusion, in the context we're talking, isn't about seeing what's actually physically there. That's one of the illusions.
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Post by enigma on Mar 2, 2019 21:58:21 GMT -5
Since there is no physical reality, the point is moot. There is only what appears in consciousness. Will you show me there's only what appears in Consciousness? How am I supposed to do that?
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