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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2019 19:53:03 GMT -5
Yes, Zazen, you got it right. I rather be silent regarding what others talk about because I have this funny feeling of misinterpreting what actually they mean regarding a particular issue or topic. I get only to speak when the priest want me to say something. Being the only Physician in the group. They want to hear me say that they can bring with them a good word /thought from me for the night. If I keep silent the group perhaps will think otherwise. What I want is for my wife to speak to the group what she thinks about herself and also in my behalf. That would really make my day. I have a Christian friend. He is quite a decent person, kind and non-jugemental. I love him. But I avoid religious discussions with him, though he persistently tries to save me, kind of like E. When he asks about my beliefs--he knows nothing about them, not even that I practice zazen--iI tell him I believe God is everything. God is responsible for everything, even the billiard balls moving when we play pool. He does not like that and changes the subject. Praise the Lawd! (I'll say a prayer for you.)
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2019 19:58:34 GMT -5
I have a Christian friend. He is quite a decent person, kind and non-jugemental. I love him. But I avoid religious discussions with him, though he persistently tries to save me, kind of like E. When he asks about my beliefs--he knows nothing about them, not even that I practice zazen--iI tell him I believe God is everything. God is responsible for everything, even the billiard balls moving when we play pool. He does not like that and changes the subject. Maybe your friend needs 1-2 lifetimes more before he can reach your level. But it's okay It's always our kind who goes down to his level for friendship to stay. With love friends transcend differences. Who's to say what 'level' one is at? I'd say 'kind and non-judgmental' is a state that deserves no condescending.
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2019 20:05:10 GMT -5
What thoughts did you put into his words? That his thoughts poured out of him when it was his turn to speak. How else could he observe that "time flies for the speaker when he's pouring his thoughts"?
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 21, 2019 20:19:31 GMT -5
If SR isn't a technique then it's a process. SR can't be taught because there aren't any instructions given by the teacher on how to achieve it. So, what to do if SR can't be reached through books, words and thoughts? Then I won't take it! It won't hurt at all if I'm not self - realized. I'll find some other way to make my thoughts blissful and happy. Is that what you really want? To make every thought that forms in whatever language you think in, to always be blissful and happy? Good and beautiful thoughts make one blissful and happy. Unpleasant fearful and horrible thoughts make one miserable. So, what's wrong with that if I immerse myself in wonderful thoughts in making myself happy. SR is ptt..
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2019 20:24:11 GMT -5
Praise the Lawd! (I'll say a prayer for you.)What are you trying to save him from? I'm not trying to save anybody.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 21, 2019 20:28:30 GMT -5
If I were isolated in an island without books how will I find the living truth? Why should I be doing that? I be busy trying to survive in that island by myself. Then try to find a way to escape from the isolation by building a boat. Besides before I was placed in the island, I was baptized a Catholic. So, my personal living truth is the Holy Spirit who dwells in my heart, He who gives me strength to stay alive. There's thoughts to keep me company. Guiding me in this journey. What you're calling thoughts are memories. Memories don't guide, they just repeat. The Living Truth doesn't just live in your heart. It is insecure to think such a thing. Memory loss is a symptom of Alzheimer's disease. Severing one's thoughts may lead to that. Living Truth is a dual word. Is there's such a thing as Dead Truth?
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2019 20:31:59 GMT -5
Is that what you really want? To make every thought that forms in whatever language you think in, to always be blissful and happy? Good and beautiful thoughts make one blissful and happy. Unpleasant fearful and horrible thoughts make one miserable. So, what's wrong with if I immerse myself in wonderful thoughts in making myself happy. SR is ptt.. You don't have control over either your conscious or unconscious thoughts. However, pushing away the conscious thoughts you don't like gives those thought-feelings more power at the unconscious level. Allowing thoughts and feelings to come and go as they will has the opposite effect.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 21, 2019 20:34:35 GMT -5
That his thoughts poured out of him when it was his turn to speak. How else could he observe that "time flies for the speaker when he's pouring his thoughts"? An hour to a school teacher talking to his students seems only 10 minutes to him talking. The students listening to the teacher for an hour seem like two hours for the students. I rather let the students do the talking themselves in front of the teacher so the latter will feel what's like to be at the listening end..
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 21, 2019 20:42:58 GMT -5
Memory loss is a symptom of Alzheimer's disease. Severing one's thoughts may lead to that. Living Truth is a dual word. Is there's such a thing as Dead Truth? So this 'living truth in your heart' is just a sensation that you sometimes remember? We been talking about truth. We don't even have the words to describe the truth. Krsna is truth and this is what I know from the books Srimad Bhagavatam, Bhagavad - Gita and Teachings of Lord Caitanya. Truth to me is not a sensation. Its a name.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 21, 2019 20:56:25 GMT -5
We been talking about truth. We don't even have the words to describe the truth. Krsna is truth and this is what I know from the books Srimad Bhagavatam, Bhagavad - Gita and Teachings of Lord Caitanya. Truth to me is not a sensation. Its a name. The living truth is not in the words of any book. It is in the space between your interpretations of those words. You tell that to the marines, my dear. Between the Devil and Deep Blue Sea, the living truth as you say so I may understand is the AND. Ah ok. I like that Calling the truth "AND " .
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 21, 2019 21:11:45 GMT -5
You tell that to the marines, my dear. Between the Devil and Deep Blue Sea, the living truth as you say so I may understand is the AND. Ah ok. I like that Calling the truth "AND " . You're still trying to interpret. I got to say something when truth is nothing.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 22, 2019 18:15:33 GMT -5
There are people we bumped into we never imagine meet again say, a long lost friend, a teacher, a classmate, a distant relative. It seemed a time portal has opened and you are at that very instant get to meet the person.
There are I feel countless time portals everywhere that opens spontaneously and get to be transported to that place we never thought would manifest.
There are people whom I closely know walking the streets, shopping at malls, attending mass in churches yet we don't meet in those places where we go to. Time portals that remain close for dear ones to merge. Only God knows when He will ever open them.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 23, 2019 7:22:49 GMT -5
Krsna they say can eat with his eyes and see with his hands. When I say Krsna I am referring to God. Krsna is God. I love to watch videos in YouTube regarding street foods from different places. Being a fan of different kinds of dishes I get to experience what's like to be watching how these foods were prepared that I noticed I gradually became from hungry to being full as I started to partake these foods before my eyes I can even smell the garlic and onions. Just watching the viand being mixed with the spices as it's being cooked in the frying pan.
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Post by Reefs on Feb 23, 2019 9:01:47 GMT -5
Krsna they say can eat with his eyes and see with his hands. When I say Krsna I am referring to God. Krsna is God. I love to watch videos in YouTube regarding street foods from different places. Being a fan of different kinds of dishes I get to experience what's like to be watching how these foods were prepared that I noticed I gradually became from hungry to being full as I started to partake these foods before my eyes I can even smell the garlic and onions. Just watching the viand being mixed with the spices as it's being cooked in the frying pan. In that case, Krsna cannot be talked about because the Krsna that can be talked about is not the real Krsna.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 23, 2019 11:15:40 GMT -5
Krsna they say can eat with his eyes and see with his hands. When I say Krsna I am referring to God. Krsna is God. I love to watch videos in YouTube regarding street foods from different places. Being a fan of different kinds of dishes I get to experience what's like to be watching how these foods were prepared that I noticed I gradually became from hungry to being full as I started to partake these foods before my eyes I can even smell the garlic and onions. Just watching the viand being mixed with the spices as it's being cooked in the frying pan. In that case, Krsna cannot be talked about because the Krsna that can be talked about is not the real Krsna. There's no such thing as real or false when one talks of Krsna The name Krsna is transcendental. Krsna is beyond words real or unreal. In the Narada Pancaratra it says that all Vedic literatures, Vedic rituals and their conclusions are summarized into just 8 words :Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare. The mere mention of the word Krsna whether one is ignorant or unconditioned upon mentioning the word becomes a candidate for liberation from the bondage of material nature /illusion. Krsna erases all illusions. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has instructed every student of self - realization to become situated in their original spiritual constitution as servants of God. Serving Krsna with devotion. If one don't surrender to Krsna, the non - devotee becomes lost destined forever to become slaves of maya/illusion.
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