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Post by tenka on Aug 8, 2017 3:59:10 GMT -5
In the wild, an animal that couldn't hunt / feed / protect itself would not last for long in this world . The way of the world for humans is obviously not like that . I think many wish it was . For myself if my mind was sound, I would use it to try and get well or to be at peace regardless of age and condition . Mind is important but it needs a body to do things. An employer whose mind is geared towards development can not do it alone. He has to use resources and bodies to develop say, a mall or park. Bodies do not move and do work without incentives, salaries, food and drink to run. My father is trying each day to get well yet he can only have that. At age 88, I think he now only weighs around 30 kilograms. But his mind is excellent. This picture was taken 10 years ago. I suppose, to some degree, it will depend on what tools your father has at his disposal. Things are the way they are in all respects, perhaps if he is not happy with the self healing results he is getting, then maybe try something new?
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 8, 2017 16:33:18 GMT -5
Mind is important but it needs a body to do things. An employer whose mind is geared towards development can not do it alone. He has to use resources and bodies to develop say, a mall or park. Bodies do not move and do work without incentives, salaries, food and drink to run. My father is trying each day to get well yet he can only have that. At age 88, I think he now only weighs around 30 kilograms. But his mind is excellent. This picture was taken 10 years ago. I suppose, to some degree, it will depend on what tools your father has at his disposal. Things are the way they are in all respects, perhaps if he is not happy with the self healing results he is getting, then maybe try something new? He has muscle wasting. His doctor told us it is due to his ailment, pulmonary emphysema. On an errand he asks me to buy for him fruits, pomelo, grapes, and ripe papaya. He sends me to buy his favorite food, Libby`s vienna sausage, Spam luncheon meat, cans of pork`s legs, Ox palm corned beef, Hungarian sausage, Frankfurters, cooked ham, american ribs, ground pork,honey cured bacon, fresh milk, tomato juice, He asks me to buy everyday, a slice of pizza, spaghetti, Sometimes, I buy for him, lasagna, grilled hamburger He also asks me to buy vegetables like carrots, string bean, cabbage, green bell pepper, potatoes. He takes everyday MX 3 an anti-oxidant, his daily maintenance of lanoxin, salbutamol. He also likes to eat Cadbury chocolate fruit and nut, Nissin wafers, Skyflakes biscuits, marshmallows.
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Post by silver on Aug 8, 2017 17:09:08 GMT -5
I suppose, to some degree, it will depend on what tools your father has at his disposal. Things are the way they are in all respects, perhaps if he is not happy with the self healing results he is getting, then maybe try something new? He has muscle wasting. His doctor told us it is due to his ailment, pulmonary emphysema. On an errand he asks me to buy for him fruits, pomelo, grapes, and ripe papaya. He sends me to buy his favorite food, Libby`s vienna sausage, Spam luncheon meat, cans of pork`s legs, Ox palm corned beef, Hungarian sausage, Frankfurters, cooked ham, american ribs, ground pork,honey cured bacon, fresh milk, tomato juice, He asks me to buy everyday, a slice of pizza, spaghetti, Sometimes, I buy for him, lasagna, grilled hamburger He also asks me to buy vegetables like carrots, string bean, cabbage, green bell pepper, potatoes. He takes everyday MX 3 an anti-oxidant, his daily maintenance of lanoxin, salbutamol. He also likes to eat Cadbury chocolate fruit and nut, Nissin wafers, Skyflakes biscuits, marshmallows. Nice photos of your dad and family/friends. That is a LOT of food! I noticed it's an awful lot of carbohydrates. Maybe he needs more proteins - does his doctor say that he will just go downhill from here or can the muscle wasting be arrested and/or stopped? How about Co-enzyme Q10 (CoQ10)? That should help him feel stronger. It helps me in that way when I take it.
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 8, 2017 21:17:40 GMT -5
He has muscle wasting. His doctor told us it is due to his ailment, pulmonary emphysema. On an errand he asks me to buy for him fruits, pomelo, grapes, and ripe papaya. He sends me to buy his favorite food, Libby`s vienna sausage, Spam luncheon meat, cans of pork`s legs, Ox palm corned beef, Hungarian sausage, Frankfurters, cooked ham, american ribs, ground pork,honey cured bacon, fresh milk, tomato juice, He asks me to buy everyday, a slice of pizza, spaghetti, Sometimes, I buy for him, lasagna, grilled hamburger He also asks me to buy vegetables like carrots, string bean, cabbage, green bell pepper, potatoes. He takes everyday MX 3 an anti-oxidant, his daily maintenance of lanoxin, salbutamol. He also likes to eat Cadbury chocolate fruit and nut, Nissin wafers, Skyflakes biscuits, marshmallows. Nice photos of your dad and family/friends. That is a LOT of food! I noticed it's an awful lot of carbohydrates. Maybe he needs more proteins - does his doctor say that he will just go downhill from here or can the muscle wasting be arrested and/or stopped? How about Co-enzyme Q10 (CoQ10)? That should help him feel stronger. It helps me in that way when I take it. I can not argue with a physician who himself is ill, is my mentor in med school where I graduated. He prescribes his own medicines. He lets me buy cans of San Miguel Pale Pilsen beer which he consumes 2 cans per day one after lunch and one after dinner and a bottle of Tanduay ice at bedtime. I just let him be. He knows what`s good and bad. By taking in lots of carbohydrates he is hoping the calories not utilized are turned to fat so he will gain weight. He also loves to eat Chili con carne without beans, corned beef hash. After so many years of drinking alcohol, his liver is fine. His kidneys are well. He has no diabetes. He is not hypertensive. He says his grand parents died at the age of 100 years. His parents died in their 90s. He said it is in the genes why he is still alive at 88. Thanks for recommending Co-enzyme Q10. I might need it myself. I have a scar in my heart which wont go away. It says in the ECG tracing it`s a post inferior wall mycardial infarct, a condition I suffered 10 years ago.
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Post by silver on Aug 8, 2017 21:39:45 GMT -5
Nice photos of your dad and family/friends. That is a LOT of food! I noticed it's an awful lot of carbohydrates. Maybe he needs more proteins - does his doctor say that he will just go downhill from here or can the muscle wasting be arrested and/or stopped? How about Co-enzyme Q10 (CoQ10)? That should help him feel stronger. It helps me in that way when I take it. I can not argue with a physician who himself is ill, is my mentor in med school where I graduated. He prescribes his own medicines. He lets me buy cans of San Miguel Pale Pilsen beer which he consumes 2 cans per day one after lunch and one after dinner and a bottle of Tanduay ice at bedtime. I just let him be. He knows what`s good and bad. By taking in lots of carbohydrates he is hoping the calories not utilized are turned to fat so he will gain weight. He also loves to eat Chili con carne without beans, corned beef hash. After so many years of drinking alcohol, his liver is fine. His kidneys are well. He has no diabetes. He is not hypertensive. He says his grand parents died at the age of 100 years. His parents died in their 90s. He said it is in the genes why he is still alive at 88. Thanks for recommending Co-enzyme Q10. I might need it myself. I have a scar in my heart which wont go away. It says in the ECG tracing it`s a post inferior wall mycardial infarct, a condition I suffered 10 years ago. Beer's ok - I think it's supposed to have some B-vitamin. But all that other stuff. As regards to all the carbs, tell him I said, "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride." I would tell him also, that deep down, he has more common sense than that. But you really can't argue with a man with that kind of personality, background, and 'gene-etics'. I'm the kind of person who believes in the potential for living forever. And that don't make no sense, either!
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Post by tenka on Aug 9, 2017 1:51:55 GMT -5
I suppose, to some degree, it will depend on what tools your father has at his disposal. Things are the way they are in all respects, perhaps if he is not happy with the self healing results he is getting, then maybe try something new? He has muscle wasting. His doctor told us it is due to his ailment, pulmonary emphysema. On an errand he asks me to buy for him fruits, pomelo, grapes, and ripe papaya. He sends me to buy his favorite food, Libby`s vienna sausage, Spam luncheon meat, cans of pork`s legs, Ox palm corned beef, Hungarian sausage, Frankfurters, cooked ham, american ribs, ground pork,honey cured bacon, fresh milk, tomato juice, He asks me to buy everyday, a slice of pizza, spaghetti, Sometimes, I buy for him, lasagna, grilled hamburger He also asks me to buy vegetables like carrots, string bean, cabbage, green bell pepper, potatoes. He takes everyday MX 3 an anti-oxidant, his daily maintenance of lanoxin, salbutamol. He also likes to eat Cadbury chocolate fruit and nut, Nissin wafers, Skyflakes biscuits, marshmallows. www.livestrong.com/article/341198-supplements-to-reverse-muscle-atrophy/Probably need 10 times more protein .. liver is a good source of muscle repair .
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 9, 2017 18:15:08 GMT -5
He has muscle wasting. His doctor told us it is due to his ailment, pulmonary emphysema. On an errand he asks me to buy for him fruits, pomelo, grapes, and ripe papaya. He sends me to buy his favorite food, Libby`s vienna sausage, Spam luncheon meat, cans of pork`s legs, Ox palm corned beef, Hungarian sausage, Frankfurters, cooked ham, american ribs, ground pork,honey cured bacon, fresh milk, tomato juice, He asks me to buy everyday, a slice of pizza, spaghetti, Sometimes, I buy for him, lasagna, grilled hamburger He also asks me to buy vegetables like carrots, string bean, cabbage, green bell pepper, potatoes. He takes everyday MX 3 an anti-oxidant, his daily maintenance of lanoxin, salbutamol. He also likes to eat Cadbury chocolate fruit and nut, Nissin wafers, Skyflakes biscuits, marshmallows. www.livestrong.com/article/341198-supplements-to-reverse-muscle-atrophy/Probably need 10 times more protein .. liver is a good source of muscle repair . Yes, tenka thanks for the link. My father knows he needs protein to muscle him up. But the proteins he ingest just would not stay. He does not like liver I guess because I have yet to see him buy and cook pork live/liver spread for his daily eating fare,
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 9, 2017 18:32:32 GMT -5
I can not argue with a physician who himself is ill, is my mentor in med school where I graduated. He prescribes his own medicines. He lets me buy cans of San Miguel Pale Pilsen beer which he consumes 2 cans per day one after lunch and one after dinner and a bottle of Tanduay ice at bedtime. I just let him be. He knows what`s good and bad. By taking in lots of carbohydrates he is hoping the calories not utilized are turned to fat so he will gain weight. He also loves to eat Chili con carne without beans, corned beef hash. After so many years of drinking alcohol, his liver is fine. His kidneys are well. He has no diabetes. He is not hypertensive. He says his grand parents died at the age of 100 years. His parents died in their 90s. He said it is in the genes why he is still alive at 88. Thanks for recommending Co-enzyme Q10. I might need it myself. I have a scar in my heart which wont go away. It says in the ECG tracing it`s a post inferior wall mycardial infarct, a condition I suffered 10 years ago. Beer's ok - I think it's supposed to have some B-vitamin. But all that other stuff. As regards to all the carbs, tell him I said, "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride." I would tell him also, that deep down, he has more common sense than that. But you really can't argue with a man with that kind of personality, background, and 'gene-etics'. I'm the kind of person who believes in the potential for living forever. And that don't make no sense, either! I remember in his twenties he won a radio second prize in a walkathon event. He displayed so many trophies in the house for playing golf. He played tennis, basketball, bowling. He knew how to play the accordion and harmonica. He use to draw our faces on drawing paper with charcoal. He has stored so many of his favorite vinyl records ( Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, Shirley Bassey, etc ) and played them again and again with his old stereo. His favorite sports were also into breeding fighting roosters and letting them fight for money to the death in the pit. He also was into deep sea fishing. He would take me and his friends using a pumpboat to a fishing ground and stay there overnight. In that area, we anchored and drop our fishing line at 60-100 fathoms deep. We don`t use a fishing rod. We submerge first a sinker with fishing line attached three fish hooks and fish bait. There we wait until the line moved and immediately we pull the line. The line is attached to a wooden cylinder where we wound the line until we see the fish being caught float. Due to the sea pressure, the fish emerge with bulging eyes. The fish we caught we placed in the ice box while some we cook it. From the ice box there are also bottles of beer where we get some to warm us up surrounded by the sea in the dark of the night. Who says people do not want to live forever? You have all these so-called activities for social enjoyment. You are the toast of the town in a gathering. You can orate what you know in front of people from all walks of life. You possess a photographic mind. Your patients always come back to you for treatment because you always know how to cure their sickness. You just got everything going for you until the wife at 81 died last year. Your hospitalization recently has confined you permanently at home in your room. No where to go but use your mind watching Sky cable TV and reading your favorite one local and one national newspaper. One can only do that much when body is disabled.
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Post by silver on Aug 9, 2017 19:22:06 GMT -5
Beer's ok - I think it's supposed to have some B-vitamin. But all that other stuff. As regards to all the carbs, tell him I said, "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride." I would tell him also, that deep down, he has more common sense than that. But you really can't argue with a man with that kind of personality, background, and 'gene-etics'. I'm the kind of person who believes in the potential for living forever. And that don't make no sense, either! I remember in his twenties he won a radio second prize in a walkathon event. He displayed so many trophies in the house for playing golf. He played tennis, basketball, bowling. He knew how to play the accordion and harmonica. He use to draw our faces on drawing paper with charcoal. He has stored so many of his favorite vinyl records ( Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, Shirley Bassey, etc ) and played them again and again with his old stereo. His favorite sports were also into breeding fighting roosters and letting them fight for money to the death in the pit. He also was into deep sea fishing. He would take me and his friends using a pumpboat to a fishing ground and stay there overnight. In that area, we anchored and drop our fishing line at 60-100 fathoms deep. We don`t use a fishing rod. We submerge first a sinker with fishing line attached three fish hooks and fish bait. There we wait until the line moved and immediately we pull the line. The line is attached to a wooden cylinder where we wound the line until we see the fish being caught float. Due to the sea pressure, the fish emerge with bulging eyes. The fish we caught we placed in the ice box while some we cook it. From the ice box there are also bottles of beer where we get some to warm us up surrounded by the sea in the dark of the night. Who says people do not want to live forever? You have all these so-called activities for social enjoyment. You are the toast of the town in a gathering. You can orate what you know in front of people from all walks of life. You possess a photographic mind. Your patients always come back to you for treatment because you always know how to cure their sickness. You just got everything going for you until the wife at 81 died last year. Your hospitalization recently has confined you permanently at home in your room. No where to go but use your mind watching Sky cable TV and reading your favorite one local and one national newspaper. One can only do that much when body is disabled. Most of the people I've talked to over my lifetime have accepted death - and they often say that they don't want to live if they have conditions that don't allow them to be relatively independent. Even my parents said it - they gathered us (me and my two older brothers) together when we were teens and told us that if and when we are faced with putting them in a convalescent/old folks home, that we should not hesitate to do so. It's clear you have a father that you look up to, a father with great magnetism and talents.
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 9, 2017 19:57:20 GMT -5
I remember in his twenties he won a radio second prize in a walkathon event. He displayed so many trophies in the house for playing golf. He played tennis, basketball, bowling. He knew how to play the accordion and harmonica. He use to draw our faces on drawing paper with charcoal. He has stored so many of his favorite vinyl records ( Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, Shirley Bassey, etc ) and played them again and again with his old stereo. His favorite sports were also into breeding fighting roosters and letting them fight for money to the death in the pit. He also was into deep sea fishing. He would take me and his friends using a pumpboat to a fishing ground and stay there overnight. In that area, we anchored and drop our fishing line at 60-100 fathoms deep. We don`t use a fishing rod. We submerge first a sinker with fishing line attached three fish hooks and fish bait. There we wait until the line moved and immediately we pull the line. The line is attached to a wooden cylinder where we wound the line until we see the fish being caught float. Due to the sea pressure, the fish emerge with bulging eyes. The fish we caught we placed in the ice box while some we cook it. From the ice box there are also bottles of beer where we get some to warm us up surrounded by the sea in the dark of the night. Who says people do not want to live forever? You have all these so-called activities for social enjoyment. You are the toast of the town in a gathering. You can orate what you know in front of people from all walks of life. You possess a photographic mind. Your patients always come back to you for treatment because you always know how to cure their sickness. You just got everything going for you until the wife at 81 died last year. Your hospitalization recently has confined you permanently at home in your room. No where to go but use your mind watching Sky cable TV and reading your favorite one local and one national newspaper. One can only do that much when body is disabled. Most of the people I've talked to over my lifetime have accepted death - and they often say that they don't want to live if they have conditions that don't allow them to be relatively independent. Even my parents said it - they gathered us (me and my two older brothers) together when we were teens and told us that if and when we are faced with putting them in a convalescent/old folks home, that we should not hesitate to do so. It's clear you have a father that you look up to, a father with great magnetism and talents. My father`s lucky he has a son whom he looks up to in his old/disable age. We do not have a home here for the aged. So, it`s us the siblings, relatives who will care for them. I have to be contend each day of seeing to it my father`s needs are met. He has two atm cards with minimal savings in them. I withdraw money from these atm cards when he asks for money to buy everyday lotto tickets, groceries and medicines. He also has a son, my elder brother who is very lazy whom my father feeds and supports including my brother`s grand son and his daughter who have been staying in my father`s house for years. I am living separately next to my father`s house. My elder brother who is staying with him has no job and is a drug dependent. I am taking care all what my father is supposed to be doing by himself. I have taken over his clinic and began servicing my father`s patients two years ago. I have retired from government service and awaiting to receive my monthly pension at 60. Even if I have retired I am still working from Monday to Saturday treating the sick. I guess one can not stop when you are committed to something. I do not know when I will stop servicing my father`s patients and mine at the clinic. They say there is no retirement practicing medicine so long as body can still perform, advising and writing down the prescriptions. Not all become doctors or priests. It`s a vocation. There is no long vacation for a physician if his body is still strong and able. Patients await.
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Post by silver on Aug 10, 2017 2:02:45 GMT -5
Most of the people I've talked to over my lifetime have accepted death - and they often say that they don't want to live if they have conditions that don't allow them to be relatively independent. Even my parents said it - they gathered us (me and my two older brothers) together when we were teens and told us that if and when we are faced with putting them in a convalescent/old folks home, that we should not hesitate to do so. It's clear you have a father that you look up to, a father with great magnetism and talents. My father`s lucky he has a son whom he looks up to in his old/disable age. We do not have a home here for the aged. So, it`s us the siblings, relatives who will care for them. I have to be contend each day of seeing to it my father`s needs are met. He has two atm cards with minimal savings in them. I withdraw money from these atm cards when he asks for money to buy everyday lotto tickets, groceries and medicines. He also has a son, my elder brother who is very lazy whom my father feeds and supports including my brother`s grand son and his daughter who have been staying in my father`s house for years. I am living separately next to my father`s house. My elder brother who is staying with him has no job and is a drug dependent. I am taking care all what my father is supposed to be doing by himself. I have taken over his clinic and began servicing my father`s patients two years ago. I have retired from government service and awaiting to receive my monthly pension at 60. Even if I have retired I am still working from Monday to Saturday treating the sick. I guess one can not stop when you are committed to something. I do not know when I will stop servicing my father`s patients and mine at the clinic. They say there is no retirement practicing medicine so long as body can still perform, advising and writing down the prescriptions. Not all become doctors or priests. It`s a vocation. There is no long vacation for a physician if his body is still strong and able. Patients await. It sounds to me like you're trying to express some fairly heavy resentments for your "elder brother who is very lazy" and the others who are taking unfair advantage of both you and your dad. I have no idea how all this came about, but it isn't fair at all in my book and don't blame you for any anger you may harbor towards them. It seems someone of importance - someone who is directly involved with your father and you and what you do as far as practicing medicine. It's a very unbalanced situation and you do understand the kind of stress it must generate in your life will have eventual consequences to your own health. Or do I have that all wrong some how?
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 10, 2017 3:10:08 GMT -5
My father`s lucky he has a son whom he looks up to in his old/disable age. We do not have a home here for the aged. So, it`s us the siblings, relatives who will care for them. I have to be contend each day of seeing to it my father`s needs are met. He has two atm cards with minimal savings in them. I withdraw money from these atm cards when he asks for money to buy everyday lotto tickets, groceries and medicines. He also has a son, my elder brother who is very lazy whom my father feeds and supports including my brother`s grand son and his daughter who have been staying in my father`s house for years. I am living separately next to my father`s house. My elder brother who is staying with him has no job and is a drug dependent. I am taking care all what my father is supposed to be doing by himself. I have taken over his clinic and began servicing my father`s patients two years ago. I have retired from government service and awaiting to receive my monthly pension at 60. Even if I have retired I am still working from Monday to Saturday treating the sick. I guess one can not stop when you are committed to something. I do not know when I will stop servicing my father`s patients and mine at the clinic. They say there is no retirement practicing medicine so long as body can still perform, advising and writing down the prescriptions. Not all become doctors or priests. It`s a vocation. There is no long vacation for a physician if his body is still strong and able. Patients await. It sounds to me like you're trying to express some fairly heavy resentments for your "elder brother who is very lazy" and the others who are taking unfair advantage of both you and your dad. I have no idea how all this came about, but it isn't fair at all in my book and don't blame you for any anger you may harbor towards them. It seems someone of importance - someone who is directly involved with your father and you and what you do as far as practicing medicine. It's a very unbalanced situation and you do understand the kind of stress it must generate in your life will have eventual consequences to your own health. Or do I have that all wrong some how? My elder brother is named after my father. He is the Junior. I can not even go inside the house because he threatened that if I do get inside and see my father, something will happen to me. My father`s deaf. I communicate with my father by exchanging notes. I severed the mosquito screen of his window which is next to his bed so I can hand him money he`s asking and the notes I write, including the daily newspapers. He hands over to me the note where he lists what he wants me to buy. After doing what my father wants me to do, I leave the groceries/food in the garage and have it picked by my niece, the daughter of my brother. My brother, Junior, accuses me of betraying him over a land inheritance which I did not pursue because we were not directly the heirs from our grand parents property. The land was transferred to my cousin who sold it with my wife as the attorney-in-fact as vendor. When my brother found this out he got so mad, he accused me of being an accomplice. Why should he get pissed off when he was given his share of the money from the land when it was sold? He dwells in the past and can not move forward. In fact, this was already settled when the brothers and sisters of my father came home from the US and Canada and told Junior he should stop accusing my cousin, me and wife of this conspiracy because everyone already got their share including him. Then with regards to the property of my parents. They made me the attorney-in-fact authorized to sell it. Yet Junior was able to get an SPA revoking my attorney-in-fact. I was able to bring my father to a lawyer and have in turned revoked his SPA. My SPA I made it irrevocable. When I gave him a copy of the SPA he got so mad and threatened me telling I can not anymore go inside the house and see my father. So, my transaction with my father is made from the window near his bed. Why it led to this because of his reputation as a drug addict who was placed in the rehab center two times. When he was released he still wont stop. He can not be trusted with money because he will only spend it on alcohol drinking with his drinking drug addict buddies, smoke marijuana and crack ( methamphetamine ). He goes berserk when he is not given money and he steals from my father the money stashed in his pocket when my father`s asleep.
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 10, 2017 19:25:54 GMT -5
The realization is that all these things in a man`s life that occur to him, relationships, mental and physical problems, earning a living, ambitions, sex, love, marriage, beliefs, worship, devotion, etc are simply temporary but real. They will come to a full stop at death. We continue to speculate the nature of things, material and spiritual. It goes on and on. The mind is never satisfied to know as they are. So, we build images of ourselves what`s pleasant to us. We take drugs to alleviate our mental and physical pain. We do yoga, meditation and whatever to be happy. But all these will stop at death. And where do we go from here? It`s either one goes to hell/heaven. One goes to the Vaikuntha planets. Or he goes to Sidhhaloka/Krsnaloka. Anywhere one`s spirit soul takes him. He is liberated from the bondage of the mind and body. At death, material body is no more. There is no more false identification we call ego. This body now becomes a spiritual body part and parcel of the Supreme spiritual body ( God ) .An example of a liberated soul is Narada Muni. He goes anywhere from Brahmaloka to Patalaloka. Just to glorify the pastimes of Krsna. Wow! This is my wish to be a Narada Muni,too . Or perhaps, a Krsnaraja with Radharani embracing me? Haha
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Post by krsnaraja on Aug 12, 2017 1:47:23 GMT -5
Who is more important, Construction worker or Doctor?
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Post by zendancer on Aug 12, 2017 7:57:25 GMT -5
Who is more important, Construction worker or Doctor? What's most important is seeing through false dichotomies generated by reflective thought.
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