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Post by steven on Sept 16, 2015 13:57:27 GMT -5
Well, ZD believes that 'THIS' is what understands or answers questions that it either understands or pretends not to understand. He believes it is 'THIS' that takes showers and goes out to meet friends, and not the mind that believes that showers and friends to meet actually exist out there in an objective world... ZD is funny man, I never take his words seriously, because he hasn't realized anything bigger, He is not even ready to listen what others say! It's all unfortunate! If you ask him some question which penetrates his nonsense idea, then he would say mind can't answer this, ZD is one of the funny person here, I would rather argue [/b] with some people those who really have some valuable experience in their life which can be comparable to my Life! So Let's leave this ZD to die with his ignorance! [/quote]Haha...ZD has done so quite JOYFULLY already :-)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 13:58:43 GMT -5
So, would you say that you see your thinking as God's thinking? Yes and then I forgot, and moved into the spaciousness of 'I don't know' So, would you say 'I don't know' creates the spaciousness, or does the absence of an I that 'doesn't know' create the spaciousness? Or does it even matter?
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Post by steven on Sept 16, 2015 14:00:37 GMT -5
Yes and then I forgot, and moved into the spaciousness of 'I don't know' So, would you say 'I don't know' creates the spaciousness, or does the absence of an I that 'doesn't know' create the spaciousness? Or does it even matter? 'I don't know' has a wonderfully perfect symmetry and grace
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 14:02:01 GMT -5
So, would you say 'I don't know' creates the spaciousness, or does the absence of an I that 'doesn't know' create the spaciousness? Or does it even matter? I don't know has a wonderfully perfect symmetry and grave So, is that kind of like ignorance is Bliss?
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Post by steven on Sept 16, 2015 14:08:21 GMT -5
what you 'know' is a selection process, a fashioned segregation really
The Intellectual Seeker asks: "What came first, the chicken or the egg?"
The Sage a Replies: "Here is a Chicken, and Here is an Egg."
The Buddha makes an omelette, and eats it in full enjoyment
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Post by steven on Sept 16, 2015 14:13:37 GMT -5
I don't know has a wonderfully perfect symmetry and grave So, is that kind of like ignorance is Bliss? The ignorant seeker is looking for something, and may find bliss...the ingnorant Buddha is found by bliss what is the difference between the two if both are ignorant?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 14:31:18 GMT -5
So, is that kind of like ignorance is Bliss? The ignorant seeker is looking for something, and may find bliss...the ingnorant Buddha is found by bliss what is the difference between the two if both are ignorant? I was just wondering if a 'spaciousness of I don't know' and 'ignorance is bliss' were similar sates of being. Both conditions bring a sort of joy for Self, because of the disconnection of Consciousness from the awareness of there being something beyond itself. So, the ignorant person is happy, not sure about the ignorant Buddha...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 0:09:25 GMT -5
ZD is funny man, I never take his words seriously, because he hasn't realized anything bigger, He is not even ready to listen what others say! It's all unfortunate! If you ask him some question which penetrates his nonsense idea, then he would say mind can't answer this, ZD is one of the funny person here, I would rather argue "So Let's leave this ZD to die with his ignorance! "
Haha...ZD has done so quite JOYFULLY already :-) You are living Joyfully, I am living Joyfully, Laughter is living Joyfully! But that's not our discussion is about, Our discussion is mainly focuses on experience which is not possible after having the realization of 'personal self hood is illusion', There are certain experience is not possible once you know 'personal self hood is illusion', How could you say 'universe unfolds whatever way it wants to unfold' and continue to say 'I am getting angry on the way it unfolds'?
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2015 11:34:56 GMT -5
Knower/known is the same type of dichotomy as experiener/experienced. Mind knows nothing, as there is only knowing. What mind writes home about is the finger, not the Moon. Just drop the letter in any mailbox. It's sort of like writing to Santa Claus. Any old address will do, as long as it has "North Pole" in it somewhere. The objective existence of the Universe, which includes fingers and a moon IS mind. Knowing is your experience, but it is your experience because there really IS something to Know, it is mind. Without mind there is only the experience of the absence of mind to know, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 13:53:14 GMT -5
The objective existence of the Universe, which includes fingers and a moon IS mind. Knowing is your experience, but it is your experience because there really IS something to Know, it is mind. Without mind there is only the experience of the absence of mind to know, isn't it? The Pretzel Prayer We beg you, O Lord, to bless these breads which are to remind us that Lent is a sacred season of penance and prayer. For this very reason, the early Christians started the custom of making these breads in the form of arms crossed in prayer. Thus they kept the holy purpose of Lent alive in their hearts from day to day, and increased in their souls the love of Christ, even unto death, if necessary. Grant us, we pray, that we too, may be reminded by the daily sight of these pretzels to observe the holy season of Lent with true devotion and great spiritual fruit. We ask this through Christ our Lord. Amen. --With ecclesiastical approbation.
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Post by jay17 on Sept 17, 2015 14:51:41 GMT -5
You are completely mistaken me, Actually my focus is creative, My pleasant conversation with people always attracts this negative side with negative people, my focus would set these people like zendancer and some other here to argue against me or write against me, That's important! If you look into my conversation from the beginning, it would have been very clear to you! It has been the case from the beginning, Zendancer has nothing to do! My focus creates the ignorance of Zendancer as well, Zendancer is very important here to perform my role! My focus is creative! Ahh, i do not understand. In this post of yours below, what are you creating, where are you creating it and for what purpose or for who's benefit , if any...and, what parts do you judge as pleasant conversation? ZD is funny man, I never take his words seriously, because he hasn't realized anything bigger, He is not even ready to listen what others say! It's all unfortunate! If you ask him some question which penetrates his nonsense idea, then he would say mind can't answer this, ZD is one of the funny person here, I would rather argue with some people those who really have some valuable experience in their life which can be comparable to my Life! So Let's leave this ZD to die with his ignorance!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 5:06:37 GMT -5
You are completely mistaken me, Actually my focus is creative, My pleasant conversation with people always attracts this negative side with negative people, my focus would set these people like zendancer and some other here to argue against me or write against me, That's important! If you look into my conversation from the beginning, it would have been very clear to you! It has been the case from the beginning, Zendancer has nothing to do! My focus creates the ignorance of Zendancer as well, Zendancer is very important here to perform my role! My focus is creative! Ahh, i do not understand. In this post of yours below, what are you creating, where are you creating it and for what purpose or for who's benefit , if any...and, what parts do you judge as pleasant conversation? ZD is funny man, I never take his words seriously, because he hasn't realized anything bigger, He is not even ready to listen what others say! It's all unfortunate! If you ask him some question which penetrates his nonsense idea, then he would say mind can't answer this, ZD is one of the funny person here, I would rather argue with some people those who really have some valuable experience in their life which can be comparable to my Life! So Let's leave this ZD to die with his ignorance! Our Focus always creates anything in duality! If you experience happiness, then you need to experience unhappy, If you experience pressure, then you would experience freedom! So my pleasant conversation with some people attract unpleasant conversation with some other people!
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Post by tzujanli on Sept 19, 2015 5:34:06 GMT -5
Ahh, i do not understand. In this post of yours below, what are you creating, where are you creating it and for what purpose or for who's benefit , if any...and, what parts do you judge as pleasant conversation? Our Focus always creates anything in duality! If you experience happiness, then you need to experience unhappy, If you experience pressure, then you would experience freedom! So my pleasant conversation with some people attract unpleasant conversation with some other people! It's just conversation, no need to imagine stories about it.. focus on the conversation, on communicating, and let go of imagined beliefs.. you are only manifesting conflict with other parts of the whole..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 9:14:43 GMT -5
Our Focus always creates anything in duality! If you experience happiness, then you need to experience unhappy, If you experience pressure, then you would experience freedom! So my pleasant conversation with some people attract unpleasant conversation with some other people! It's just conversation, no need to imagine stories about it.. focus on the conversation, on communicating, and let go of imagined beliefs.. you are only manifesting conflict with other parts of the whole.. You don't have a clue about what I am talking here!
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Post by zendancer on Sept 19, 2015 9:26:10 GMT -5
It's just conversation, no need to imagine stories about it.. focus on the conversation, on communicating, and let go of imagined beliefs.. you are only manifesting conflict with other parts of the whole.. You don't have a clue about what I am talking here! A word to the wise: Please make statements without being derogatory or casting aspersions upon others. If there is a desire to insult others, please go to the unmoderated section.
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