nondual pointers

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Tim Freke collection
www.grandrecognition.com/Grand_Recognition.com/Pointers.html

Peter Marjason
www.advaitanotebook.com/index.html

"The you that doesn’t exist
Is apparently trying to see this"

"The instant you form the tiniest inkling
Of a someone that is
Going to do something
Like seek its source
That instant creates the abyss
And then you have ideas like
“I am already the source”
To try and bridge the abyss
That was never there in the first place"

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Jul 20, 2015 12:50:03 GMT -5 maxdprophet said:

Tim Freke collection
www.grandrecognition.com/Grand_Recognition.com/Pointers.html

Peter Marjason
www.advaitanotebook.com/index.html

"The you that doesn’t exist
Is apparently trying to see this"

"The instant you form the tiniest inkling
Of a someone that is
Going to do something
Like seek its source
That instant creates the abyss
And then you have ideas like
“I am already the source”
To try and bridge the abyss
That was never there in the first place"

"The greatest bondage is imagining realization of Self and Freedom".

~source

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"Psychology is to consciousness as nonduality is to awareness."



"Contemplative insights can lead to self-knowing. But you have to allow yourself to move from the conceptual and even the deeply felt to that which is fundamentally present and unchanging. How? Simply see what you are right now. You needn't go any further than that. "


radianceofbeing.blogspot.com/

[laughter]

Jul 30, 2015 7:14:53 GMT -5 maxdprophet said:

"Psychology is to consciousness as nonduality is to awareness."

I wouldn't describe this as a pointer. Psychology is the study of mind, as if mind was somehow separable and subject to isolation from the body.

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Jul 30, 2015 7:29:33 GMT -5 laughter said:

Jul 30, 2015 7:14:53 GMT -5 maxdprophet said:

"Psychology is to consciousness as nonduality is to awareness."

I wouldn't describe this as a pointer. Psychology is the study of mind, as if mind was somehow separable and subject to isolation from the body.

Yes I agree. It actually spins the mind pretty well.

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"When you wake up in the morning, consciousness dawns. In this state of being conscious, you perceive a body, mind and world. These are appearances only, not what you are. To identify oneself with any of those appearances gives rise to the notion of being a separate person, self or individual entity. This is the cause of all seeking, suffering and doubts. Being conscious is a state that comes and goes. In sleep, unconsciousness or death, the experience of being conscious subsides. So it is clearly a transitory state. However, before you awoke and became conscious of anything else, including the fact of being conscious, you were there. Consciousness happened to you who were there to experience it. Your original, fundamental position is prior to consciousness. This "prior to consciousness" identity that you are cannot be named at all. From this unnamable, non-conceptual source, which is your original, innate nature, arises the sense of conscious presence. This is also the sense of being, the experience that "I am", or the bare fact of knowing that you are. This is the first appearance or experience upon your original state. Within this consciousness state emerges the mind, the body and the entire world of appearances. Little can be said about your original state because it is clearly beyond all concepts and even prior to consciousness. Some pointers that have been used are: non-conceptual awareness, awareness unaware of itself, pure being (beyond being and non-being), the absolute, the unmanifest, noumenon, cognizing emptiness, no thing — to name only a few. This non-conceptual awareness or being IS what you are. It is pure non-duality or unicity in which both subject and object are merged. Just as the sun does not know light because it IS light, so you do not know your original nature (as an object) because you ARE THAT. It is forever beyond the grasp of concepts and subject-object knowledge. Yet it is entirely evident and inescapable as that in you (which is you) that allows you to say with utter certitude "I am" and "I know that I am". Even when those words subside, you ARE. Even when the consciousness that knows those words subsides, you ARE. Consciousness is the light of creation. But you, as the unnamable source, are the primordial awareness, being or no thing (call it what you will) in which consciousness comes and goes."

john wheeler

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Jul 30, 2015 7:36:29 GMT -5 maxdprophet said:

Jul 30, 2015 7:29:33 GMT -5 laughter said:

I wouldn't describe this as a pointer. Psychology is the study of mind, as if mind was somehow separable and subject to isolation from the body.

Yes I agree. It actually spins the mind pretty well.

ok, then how 'bout: Science is to consciousness as practice is to awareness?

[maxdprophet]

Niz: "Just realize you are dreaming a dream you call the world and stop looking for ways out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs to be done."

[maxdprophet]

Seng Ts'an, the Third Chinese Patriarch of Zen:

"Emptiness here, emptiness there, but the infinite universe stands always before your eyes. Infinitely large and infinitely small; no difference, for definitions have vanished and no boundaries are seen. So, too, with being and non-being. Don't waste time in doubts and arguments that have nothing to do with this. One thing, all things, move among and intermingle without distinction. To live in this realization is to be without anxiety about non-perfection. To live in this faith is the road to non-duality, because the non-dual is one with the trusting mind.



"Words! The Way is beyond language, for in it, there is no yesterday, no tomorrow, no today."

[maxdprophet]

Gospel of Thomas

"Jesus said: Behold, the sower went forth, he filled his hand, he cast. Some fell upon the road; the birds came and gathered them. Others fell on the rock, and sent no root down to the earth nor did they sprout any ear up to heaven. And others fell on the thorns; they choked the seed, and the worm ate them. And others fell on the good earth, and brought forth good fruit unto heaven, some sixty -fold and some an hundred and twenty -fold."


"Jesus said: Blessed is the man who has suffered; he has found the life."


"Jesus said: Two shall rest upon a bed; one shall die, the other live.
"Salome said: Who art thou; O man? And whose son? Thou hast mounted my bed, and eaten from my table.
"Jesus said to her: I am he who is from that which is equal; to me was given of the things of my Father.
"Salome said: I am thy disciple.
"Jesus said to her: Therefore I say, when it is equal it will be filled with light, but when it is divided it will be filled with darkness."

[maxdprophet]

Buddha via Diamond Sutra:

“All living beings, whether born from eggs, from the womb, from moisture, or spontaneously; whether they have form or do not have form; whether they are aware or unaware, whether they are not aware or not unaware, all living beings will eventually be led by me to the final Nirvana, the final ending of the cycle of birth and death. And when this unfathomable, infinite number of living beings have all been liberated, in truth not even a single being has actually been liberated.”


[Until now, I had never properly understood the bodhisattva vow.  It always seemed so daunting.  But it is not in time.]

[maxdprophet]

Lalla:


I searched for my Self
until I grew weary,

but no one, I know now,
reaches the hidden knowledge
by means of effort.

Then, absorbed in “Thou art This,”
I found the place of Wine.

There all the jars are filled,
but no one is left to drink.


[hahaha]

[maxdprophet]

Hafiz:

I have a thousand brilliant lies
For the question:

Who are you?

I have a thousand brilliant lies
For the question:

What is God?

If you think that the Truth can be known
From words,

If you think that the Sun and the Ocean
Can pass through that tiny opening called the mouth,

O someone should start laughing!

Someone should start wildly laughing – Now!

[Some mouths are REALLY BIG though.  
]

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May 13, 2017 15:41:03 GMT -5 maxdprophet said:

Buddha via Diamond Sutra:

“All living beings, whether born from eggs, from the womb, from moisture, or spontaneously; whether they have form or do not have form; whether they are aware or unaware, whether they are not aware or not unaware, all living beings will eventually be led by me to the final Nirvana, the final ending of the cycle of birth and death. And when this unfathomable, infinite number of living beings have all been liberated, in truth not even a single being has actually been liberated.”


[Until now, I had never properly understood the bodhisattva vow.  It always seemed so daunting.  But it is not in time.]

Well isn't the Bodhisattva out of a job from within such absolute inevitability?

[maxdprophet]

May 14, 2017 20:46:44 GMT -5 @bakk said:

May 13, 2017 15:41:03 GMT -5 maxdprophet said:

Buddha via Diamond Sutra:

“All living beings, whether born from eggs, from the womb, from moisture, or spontaneously; whether they have form or do not have form; whether they are aware or unaware, whether they are not aware or not unaware, all living beings will eventually be led by me to the final Nirvana, the final ending of the cycle of birth and death. And when this unfathomable, infinite number of living beings have all been liberated, in truth not even a single being has actually been liberated.”


[Until now, I had never properly understood the bodhisattva vow.  It always seemed so daunting.  But it is not in time.]

Well isn't the Bodhisattva out of a job from within such absolute inevitability?

I suppose it only looks like a job anyhoo.