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Post by freejoy on Jun 21, 2015 16:16:55 GMT -5
There are six kids here from 3 years old to 14 years old. They get away with murder. The parents are not even remotely consistent. I suggested a weekly meeting where everyone could talk a share their views. I even had one to "hopefully" show how it could be done. I got the kids to sign "contracts" where they agreed to some rules and the consequences, that they thought would be fair and they signed the "contract". The mother was suppose to enforce the rules. The father plays videos games all his waking hours and yells at the kids if they disturb him which really bugs me. The next week we were suppose to have another meeting but some of the kids were still in bed all day because they stay up all night. During the first week none of the rules were kept or enforced. hehehe. I don't really like the word enforced. But anyway I seen where I also need to have the parents sign a contract to enforce the rules. :) I appears the only standing rule around here is for the kids to not make the parents upset enough to to cause them to whip the kids. The kids seem to know this limit pretty close so they can get away with most anything. Hell the kids smoke cigarettes at age eight on up. Even pot. I couldn't believe it. I'm talking about the parents actually roll them cigarettes and share pot with them. Now cigarettes I might can go along with because they seem to enhance the mind and extend lifespan. But the studies on pot seems to suggest that it's not healthy for a growing mind, at least in studies of mice. I don't think it's the best thing to allow children to smoke cigarettes or make that decision until they are mature. So a lot of my positionalities were exposed when I got here to say the least. I believe in allowing children the most freedom possible but my lord. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't see how the children are being hurt in the long term. But then again, it's their karma and maybe that is what they need I cant really know for sure. But the yelling , not only the kids copying the yelling of the parents but the parents themselves. So all this is "me", all this yelling, all the mess, actually all the torturing in the world and all the lovingness in the world too at some level. But this is my present location, it's in my reality if someone is getting tortured somewhere I'm not aware or that. So I think what would be the best thing for me to do. It seems I watched a enlightened person say I should just watch similar to watching thoughts float by without judgement, sort of like a fly on the wall. So that is what I've been attempting now. Or I could just get the hell out of here. If you are a guest you have very little say in the matter in my opinion, unless the violence became so intense that it just wouldn't be right to ignore it. However, if it's your house, then you are in a position to make rules. You have to have a 'bargaining chip' in a way, unless they state they are unhappy with the situation and want your help sorting it all out. Sounds like the Mom and Dad aren't dealing with the dynamics well, but aren't interested in change yet. What you could do in the meantime is a load of Ho'oponopono on your own, 'directing' it towards the family. Start from the position that you are responsible for creating this situation, therefore you can heal it within you. Then say 'I'm sorry', 'I love you', 'please forgive me', 'thank you'. Do it as much as you can each day. Lead by example in the house too. Things will change over a period, could be rough at times though. Alternatively, you could just get the hell out. All depends. I like what you attempted to do with the meeting/agreement/rules though. It's my moms house. I'm responsible for this!? :) I figure I'm responsible for my response to this. I try to respond like the Tao says here: Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. Be like the forces of nature: when it blows, there is only wind; when it rains, there is only rain; when the clouds pass, the sun shines through. If you open yourself to the Tao, you are at one with the Tao and you can embody it completely. If you open yourself to insight, you are at one with insight and you can use it completely. If you open yourself to loss, you are at one with loss and you can accept it completely. Open yourself to the Tao, then trust your natural responses; and everything will fall into place. Just because it's not pleasing to this ego and I feel I'm flying blind that's what I try to do. I also been playing 528 hz tones and playing this "The Spirit Attachment Removal Special Edition CD" off YouTube here: for what its worth. Thanks everyone.
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Post by andrew on Jun 21, 2015 16:29:45 GMT -5
If you are a guest you have very little say in the matter in my opinion, unless the violence became so intense that it just wouldn't be right to ignore it. However, if it's your house, then you are in a position to make rules. You have to have a 'bargaining chip' in a way, unless they state they are unhappy with the situation and want your help sorting it all out. Sounds like the Mom and Dad aren't dealing with the dynamics well, but aren't interested in change yet. What you could do in the meantime is a load of Ho'oponopono on your own, 'directing' it towards the family. Start from the position that you are responsible for creating this situation, therefore you can heal it within you. Then say 'I'm sorry', 'I love you', 'please forgive me', 'thank you'. Do it as much as you can each day. Lead by example in the house too. Things will change over a period, could be rough at times though. Alternatively, you could just get the hell out. All depends. I like what you attempted to do with the meeting/agreement/rules though. It's my moms house. I'm responsible for this!? I figure I'm responsible for my response to this. I try to respond like the Tao says here: Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. Be like the forces of nature: when it blows, there is only wind; when it rains, there is only rain; when the clouds pass, the sun shines through. If you open yourself to the Tao, you are at one with the Tao and you can embody it completely. If you open yourself to insight, you are at one with insight and you can use it completely. If you open yourself to loss, you are at one with loss and you can accept it completely. Open yourself to the Tao, then trust your natural responses; and everything will fall into place. Just because it's not pleasing to this ego and I feel I'm flying blind that's what I try to do. I also been playing 528 hz tones and playing this "The Spirit Attachment Removal Special Edition CD" off YouTube here: for what its worth. Thanks everyone. No, I'm not saying you are responsible as such, I'm saying that you can apply a tool that might help the situation but it requires you to temporarily assume a position of full responsibility. Google Dr. Hew Len if interested. Yeah 528 is good. Not quite sure what to take from the info about it being your mom's house...based on what you said before, I guess your mom is not the same mom that you were talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 2:55:50 GMT -5
It's my moms house. I'm responsible for this!? I figure I'm responsible for my response to this. I try to respond like the Tao says here: Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. Be like the forces of nature: when it blows, there is only wind; when it rains, there is only rain; when the clouds pass, the sun shines through. If you open yourself to the Tao, you are at one with the Tao and you can embody it completely. If you open yourself to insight, you are at one with insight and you can use it completely. If you open yourself to loss, you are at one with loss and you can accept it completely. Open yourself to the Tao, then trust your natural responses; and everything will fall into place. Just because it's not pleasing to this ego and I feel I'm flying blind that's what I try to do. I also been playing 528 hz tones and playing this "The Spirit Attachment Removal Special Edition CD" off YouTube here: for what its worth. Thanks everyone. No, I'm not saying you are responsible as such, I'm saying that you can apply a tool that might help the situation but it requires you to temporarily assume a position of full responsibility. Google Dr. Hew Len if interested. Yeah 528 is good. Not quite sure what to take from the info about it being your mom's house...based on what you said before, I guess your mom is not the same mom that you were talking about. You're asking him to temporarily assume the role of Alpha!?!
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Post by andrew on Jun 22, 2015 4:06:29 GMT -5
No, I'm not saying you are responsible as such, I'm saying that you can apply a tool that might help the situation but it requires you to temporarily assume a position of full responsibility. Google Dr. Hew Len if interested. Yeah 528 is good. Not quite sure what to take from the info about it being your mom's house...based on what you said before, I guess your mom is not the same mom that you were talking about. You're asking him to temporarily assume the role of Alpha!?! Who is Alpha?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 4:10:05 GMT -5
You're asking him to temporarily assume the role of Alpha!?! Who is Alpha? Alpha is leader.
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Post by andrew on Jun 22, 2015 4:33:23 GMT -5
LOL yer funny. I'll make a guess and clarify the issue. Ho'oponopono asks us to start from the assumption that what attention goes to, we are creating. Or that perception is creation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 4:39:22 GMT -5
LOL yer funny. I'll make a guess and clarify the issue. Ho'oponopono asks us to start from the assumption that what attention goes to, we are creating. Or that perception is creation. I take it that you're still working through this as a possibility and you'd like Freejoy to play along as well so that you can know his results too?
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Post by andrew on Jun 22, 2015 5:11:59 GMT -5
LOL yer funny. I'll make a guess and clarify the issue. Ho'oponopono asks us to start from the assumption that what attention goes to, we are creating. Or that perception is creation. I take it that you're still working through this as a possibility and you'd like Freejoy to play along as well so that you can know his results too? I'm not interested in knowing any results he gets if he was to use it, I've done my bit in offering what I know, and that's enough.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 22, 2015 7:44:38 GMT -5
Hey freejoy, one thing about beating on kids, I don't like it either, there are better ways to discipline. Before I got married, I knew I would never spank my kids. Then I got married, and wife believed in spanking, so I had to compromise. And (former) wife also believed that kids were just supposed to do stuff or not do stuff "because I said so". It took me years to get her to come around to some good child-rearing principles. Finally, we agreed that spanking was only for deliberate disobedience. First you have a rule, if you do this, this will happen, IOW, you can't just hit the kid whenever you want to. The kid has to know consequences beforehand. She finally got this, and if the kid did something she didn't like she couldn't just hit the kid. We made a new rule, next time, if you do this, you get a spanking. ............Anyway, maybe that would help, sharing about rules and boundaries, if you do this, this is what happens, if you cross this line, this is what happens. And then the parent is not the bad guy, the kid learns that they caused the spanking by disobeying the rule. It's not fair for a kid to just get smacked around when the parent so chooses, that makes kids crazy. But better than spanking is reward for good behavior and withdrawal of privilege for incorrect behavior. My sister has four kids and they have kids. I have to bite my tongue all the time around them......... There are six kids here from 3 years old to 14 years old. They get away with murder. The parents are not even remotely consistent. I suggested a weekly meeting where everyone could talk a share their views. I even had one to "hopefully" show how it could be done. I got the kids to sign "contracts" where they agreed to some rules and the consequences, that they thought would be fair and they signed the "contract". The mother was suppose to enforce the rules. The father plays videos games all his waking hours and yells at the kids if they disturb him which really bugs me. The next week we were suppose to have another meeting but some of the kids were still in bed all day because they stay up all night. During the first week none of the rules were kept or enforced. hehehe. I don't really like the word enforced. But anyway I seen where I also need to have the parents sign a contract to enforce the rules. I appears the only standing rule around here is for the kids to not make the parents upset enough to to cause them to whip the kids. The kids seem to know this limit pretty close so they can get away with most anything. Hell the kids smoke cigarettes at age eight on up. Even pot. I couldn't believe it. I'm talking about the parents actually roll them cigarettes and share pot with them. Now cigarettes I might can go along with because they seem to enhance the mind and extend lifespan. But the studies on pot seems to suggest that it's not healthy for a growing mind, at least in studies of mice. I don't think it's the best thing to allow children to smoke cigarettes or make that decision until they are mature. So a lot of my positionalities were exposed when I got here to say the least. I believe in allowing children the most freedom possible but my lord. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't see how the children are being hurt in the long term. But then again, it's their karma and maybe that is what they need I cant really know for sure. But the yelling , not only the kids copying the yelling of the parents but the parents themselves. So all this is "me", all this yelling, all the mess, actually all the torturing in the world and all the lovingness in the world too at some level. But this is my present location, it's in my reality if someone is getting tortured somewhere I'm not aware or that. So I think what would be the best thing for me to do. It seems I watched a enlightened person say I should just watch similar to watching thoughts float by without judgement, sort of like a fly on the wall. So that is what I've been attempting now. Or I could just get the hell out of here. That's quite a mess freejoy. I'd say work with the youngest primarily. Kids naturally love to learn until we educate this out of them. Get a book of Fairy Tales, Hans Christian Anderson is probably better than Grimes, and read to them as possible (get a local library card). I'd say the older kids might get interested. I loved Jack Tales when I was young, but that might be hard to find. I found the following on a plaque in a yard sale or a Goodwill store or something years ago. I made a copy and was cleaning up a couple of weeks ago, it happens to be on my coffee table. Children Learn What They Live If a child lives with criticism, He learns to condemn. If a child lives with hostility, He learns to fight. If a child lives with ridicule, He learns to be shy. If a child lives with shame, He learns to feel guilty. If a child lives with tolerance, He learns to be patient. If a child lives with encouragement, He learns confidence. If a child lives with praise, He learns to appreciate. If a child lives with fairness, He learns justice. If a child lives with security, He learns to have faith. If a child lives with approval, He learns to like himself. If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, He learns to find love in the world........... Dorothy L. Nolte OK......that was a little thinking time for me. What all people love most of all is to be loved. Here's how to love people, you give them your attention. The three year old is at a crucial stage, he/she needs direct contact, just find stuff to do, play, explore. Play gives the needed brain stimulation, direct concrete contact with the physical world. And then work with the next oldest. I'd guess the other kids will get jealous, but won't know why. But the why is they see the younger kids are getting your attention. So you sort of draw them in, but they don't know how or why, and work your way up, up to the oldest. Let them show you stuff they are interested in, it doesn't matter what. Or find out what they want to be interested in and find ways to help them learn about that stuff. You are sacrificing your time just to be with them, but they don't know that. All they know is they like being around you. And then start over again the next day. They will not know, may never know, that they like being around you just because you are giving them attention, and in this way you are loving them. .......Believe me, you don't have anything better to do. Be the sage in the tao te ching, rule by not-ruling.......... Buy some blocks with numbers and letters for the three year old. Just build stuff with the blocks, you don't even have to try to teach the numbers or letters. You can be the parent because the parents don't want to be parents, but don't take it serious because you are not really responsible, just play with the whole situation. You can bring order by not trying to bring order. Little steps. A little progress each day, tiny progress. First you have to row a little boat. And you will also be teaching the adults how to parent, they'll just see it. Maybe they will be influenced, maybe not. You made a valiant try as described, maybe an indirect route will work. The key to everything is you have to get them interested in being motivated from within.
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Post by freejoy on Jun 22, 2015 9:23:45 GMT -5
There are six kids here from 3 years old to 14 years old. They get away with murder. The parents are not even remotely consistent. I suggested a weekly meeting where everyone could talk a share their views. I even had one to "hopefully" show how it could be done. I got the kids to sign "contracts" where they agreed to some rules and the consequences, that they thought would be fair and they signed the "contract". The mother was suppose to enforce the rules. The father plays videos games all his waking hours and yells at the kids if they disturb him which really bugs me. The next week we were suppose to have another meeting but some of the kids were still in bed all day because they stay up all night. During the first week none of the rules were kept or enforced. hehehe. I don't really like the word enforced. But anyway I seen where I also need to have the parents sign a contract to enforce the rules. :) I appears the only standing rule around here is for the kids to not make the parents upset enough to to cause them to whip the kids. The kids seem to know this limit pretty close so they can get away with most anything. Hell the kids smoke cigarettes at age eight on up. Even pot. I couldn't believe it. I'm talking about the parents actually roll them cigarettes and share pot with them. Now cigarettes I might can go along with because they seem to enhance the mind and extend lifespan. But the studies on pot seems to suggest that it's not healthy for a growing mind, at least in studies of mice. I don't think it's the best thing to allow children to smoke cigarettes or make that decision until they are mature. So a lot of my positionalities were exposed when I got here to say the least. I believe in allowing children the most freedom possible but my lord. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't see how the children are being hurt in the long term. But then again, it's their karma and maybe that is what they need I cant really know for sure. But the yelling , not only the kids copying the yelling of the parents but the parents themselves. So all this is "me", all this yelling, all the mess, actually all the torturing in the world and all the lovingness in the world too at some level. But this is my present location, it's in my reality if someone is getting tortured somewhere I'm not aware or that. So I think what would be the best thing for me to do. It seems I watched a enlightened person say I should just watch similar to watching thoughts float by without judgement, sort of like a fly on the wall. So that is what I've been attempting now. Or I could just get the hell out of here. That's quite a mess freejoy. I'd say work with the youngest primarily. Kids naturally love to learn until we educate this out of them. Get a book of Fairy Tales, Hans Christian Anderson is probably better than Grimes, and read to them as possible (get a local library card). I'd say the older kids might get interested. I loved Jack Tales when I was young, but that might be hard to find. I found the following on a plaque in a yard sale or a Goodwill store or something years ago. I made a copy and was cleaning up a couple of weeks ago, it happens to be on my coffee table. Children Learn What They Live If a child lives with criticism, He learns to condemn. If a child lives with hostility, He learns to fight. If a child lives with ridicule, He learns to be shy. If a child lives with shame, He learns to feel guilty. If a child lives with tolerance, He learns to be patient. If a child lives with encouragement, He learns confidence. If a child lives with praise, He learns to appreciate. If a child lives with fairness, He learns justice. If a child lives with security, He learns to have faith. If a child lives with approval, He learns to like himself. If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, He learns to find love in the world........... Dorothy L. Nolte OK......that was a little thinking time for me. What all people love most of all is to be loved. Here's how to love people, you give them your attention. The three year old is at a crucial stage, he/she needs direct contact, just find stuff to do, play, explore. Play gives the needed brain stimulation, direct concrete contact with the physical world. And then work with the next oldest. I'd guess the other kids will get jealous, but won't know why. But the why is they see the younger kids are getting your attention. So you sort of draw them in, but they don't know how or why, and work your way up, up to the oldest. Let them show you stuff they are interested in, it doesn't matter what. Or find out what they want to be interested in and find ways to help them learn about that stuff. You are sacrificing your time just to be with them, but they don't know that. All they know is they like being around you. And then start over again the next day. They will not know, may never know, that they like being around you just because you are giving them attention, and in this way you are loving them. .......Believe me, you don't have anything better to do. Be the sage in the tao te ching, rule by not-ruling.......... Buy some blocks with numbers and letters for the three year old. Just build stuff with the blocks, you don't even have to try to teach the numbers or letters. You can be the parent because the parents don't want to be parents, but don't take it serious because you are not really responsible, just play with the whole situation. You can bring order by not trying to bring order. Little steps. A little progress each day, tiny progress. First you have to row a little boat. And you will also be teaching the adults how to parent, they'll just see it. Maybe they will be influenced, maybe not. You made a valiant try as described, maybe an indirect route will work. The key to everything is you have to get them interested in being motivated from within. That's a very nice poem. That's why I don't believe in whipping children because attention is what I feel really works. But six kids are really a full time attention job! :)
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Post by silver on Jun 22, 2015 9:54:20 GMT -5
That's quite a mess freejoy. I'd say work with the youngest primarily. Kids naturally love to learn until we educate this out of them. Get a book of Fairy Tales, Hans Christian Anderson is probably better than Grimes, and read to them as possible (get a local library card). I'd say the older kids might get interested. I loved Jack Tales when I was young, but that might be hard to find. I found the following on a plaque in a yard sale or a Goodwill store or something years ago. I made a copy and was cleaning up a couple of weeks ago, it happens to be on my coffee table. Children Learn What They Live If a child lives with criticism, He learns to condemn. If a child lives with hostility, He learns to fight. If a child lives with ridicule, He learns to be shy. If a child lives with shame, He learns to feel guilty. If a child lives with tolerance, He learns to be patient. If a child lives with encouragement, He learns confidence. If a child lives with praise, He learns to appreciate. If a child lives with fairness, He learns justice. If a child lives with security, He learns to have faith. If a child lives with approval, He learns to like himself. If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, He learns to find love in the world........... Dorothy L. Nolte OK......that was a little thinking time for me. What all people love most of all is to be loved. Here's how to love people, you give them your attention. The three year old is at a crucial stage, he/she needs direct contact, just find stuff to do, play, explore. Play gives the needed brain stimulation, direct concrete contact with the physical world. And then work with the next oldest. I'd guess the other kids will get jealous, but won't know why. But the why is they see the younger kids are getting your attention. So you sort of draw them in, but they don't know how or why, and work your way up, up to the oldest. Let them show you stuff they are interested in, it doesn't matter what. Or find out what they want to be interested in and find ways to help them learn about that stuff. You are sacrificing your time just to be with them, but they don't know that. All they know is they like being around you. And then start over again the next day. They will not know, may never know, that they like being around you just because you are giving them attention, and in this way you are loving them. .......Believe me, you don't have anything better to do. Be the sage in the tao te ching, rule by not-ruling.......... Buy some blocks with numbers and letters for the three year old. Just build stuff with the blocks, you don't even have to try to teach the numbers or letters. You can be the parent because the parents don't want to be parents, but don't take it serious because you are not really responsible, just play with the whole situation. You can bring order by not trying to bring order. Little steps. A little progress each day, tiny progress. First you have to row a little boat. And you will also be teaching the adults how to parent, they'll just see it. Maybe they will be influenced, maybe not. You made a valiant try as described, maybe an indirect route will work. The key to everything is you have to get them interested in being motivated from within. That's a very nice poem. That's why I don't believe in whipping children because attention is what I feel really works. But six kids are really a full time attention job! It is a nice poem, I've seen it before somewhere. The thing is, as a parent, you have to be prepared for Nothing Works with some children. We won't know why exactly (or maybe we do but there's just nothing we can do about some physiological/biological/medical problems), we won't know anything but despair and frustration and a broken heart...well.....that's why Buddhism works for me...Now anyway. It's NOT a failing on our part as a parent or their part as a kid. It just is. So, love anyway. Nothing left to do.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 22, 2015 11:03:38 GMT -5
That's quite a mess freejoy. I'd say work with the youngest primarily. Kids naturally love to learn until we educate this out of them. Get a book of Fairy Tales, Hans Christian Anderson is probably better than Grimes, and read to them as possible (get a local library card). I'd say the older kids might get interested. I loved Jack Tales when I was young, but that might be hard to find. I found the following on a plaque in a yard sale or a Goodwill store or something years ago. I made a copy and was cleaning up a couple of weeks ago, it happens to be on my coffee table. Children Learn What They Live If a child lives with criticism, He learns to condemn. If a child lives with hostility, He learns to fight. If a child lives with ridicule, He learns to be shy. If a child lives with shame, He learns to feel guilty. If a child lives with tolerance, He learns to be patient. If a child lives with encouragement, He learns confidence. If a child lives with praise, He learns to appreciate. If a child lives with fairness, He learns justice. If a child lives with security, He learns to have faith. If a child lives with approval, He learns to like himself. If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, He learns to find love in the world........... Dorothy L. Nolte OK......that was a little thinking time for me. What all people love most of all is to be loved. Here's how to love people, you give them your attention. The three year old is at a crucial stage, he/she needs direct contact, just find stuff to do, play, explore. Play gives the needed brain stimulation, direct concrete contact with the physical world. And then work with the next oldest. I'd guess the other kids will get jealous, but won't know why. But the why is they see the younger kids are getting your attention. So you sort of draw them in, but they don't know how or why, and work your way up, up to the oldest. Let them show you stuff they are interested in, it doesn't matter what. Or find out what they want to be interested in and find ways to help them learn about that stuff. You are sacrificing your time just to be with them, but they don't know that. All they know is they like being around you. And then start over again the next day. They will not know, may never know, that they like being around you just because you are giving them attention, and in this way you are loving them. .......Believe me, you don't have anything better to do. Be the sage in the tao te ching, rule by not-ruling.......... Buy some blocks with numbers and letters for the three year old. Just build stuff with the blocks, you don't even have to try to teach the numbers or letters. You can be the parent because the parents don't want to be parents, but don't take it serious because you are not really responsible, just play with the whole situation. You can bring order by not trying to bring order. Little steps. A little progress each day, tiny progress. First you have to row a little boat. And you will also be teaching the adults how to parent, they'll just see it. Maybe they will be influenced, maybe not. You made a valiant try as described, maybe an indirect route will work. The key to everything is you have to get them interested in being motivated from within. That's a very nice poem. That's why I don't believe in whipping children because attention is what I feel really works. But six kids are really a full time attention job! Yes, but ideally, with six you would have a one-room-school situation and the older kids would help teach and look after the younger kids. But I'd guess the older kids in this situation wouldn't buy into that, unless the fourteen year old a girl, and I'm guessing not. Good luck. Maybe look at it as you have your own little experimental lab here........ :-) ........ But I think the most important thing again is to teach that actions have consequences.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 22, 2015 11:07:46 GMT -5
That's a very nice poem. That's why I don't believe in whipping children because attention is what I feel really works. But six kids are really a full time attention job! It is a nice poem, I've seen it before somewhere. The thing is, as a parent, you have to be prepared for Nothing Works with some children. We won't know why exactly (or maybe we do but there's just nothing we can do about some physiological/biological/medical problems), we won't know anything but despair and frustration and a broken heart...well.....that's why Buddhism works for me...Now anyway. It's NOT a failing on our part as a parent or their part as a kid. It just is. So, love anyway. Nothing left to do. Yes, every kid is definitely different.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 15:13:07 GMT -5
I take it that you're still working through this as a possibility and you'd like Freejoy to play along as well so that you can know his results too? I'm not interested in knowing any results he gets if he was to use it, I've done my bit in offering what I know, and that's enough. There is much more to offering someone a stepping stone than just doing your bit. You have to make sure that it's been solidly made, it's preferential that it's been hand sculpted. You also have to make sure that it meets the form of their feet correctly. This involves a true identification with how they are walking. And, you have to make sure that it's been laid well. Although there will only ever be a temporary use for it, it must be durable enough to wear the amount of passage possible on it.
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Post by figgles on Jun 22, 2015 15:28:12 GMT -5
That's a very nice poem. That's why I don't believe in whipping children because attention is what I feel really works. But six kids are really a full time attention job! It is a nice poem, I've seen it before somewhere. The thing is, as a parent, you have to be prepared for Nothing Works with some children. We won't know why exactly (or maybe we do but there's just nothing we can do about some physiological/biological/medical problems), we won't know anything but despair and frustration and a broken heart...well.....that's why Buddhism works for me...Now anyway. It's NOT a failing on our part as a parent or their part as a kid. It just is. So, love anyway. Nothing left to do.
Nice.
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