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Post by laughter on Apr 10, 2015 3:26:38 GMT -5
" ? His cigarette is burning but it never seems to ash he is in the music business he is calling you doooooood! ?" Cake became another addiction! But I don't wish to dilute this (good) thread Nah, it's fine really, there's noone to take ownership for the doing. (** straight face **)
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Post by zin on Apr 10, 2015 3:28:41 GMT -5
trains of thoughts!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 3:30:46 GMT -5
If you only consider the mental thoughts then you could say gap appears when you look into outer world focus, but if you just consider only appearance, then there is no gap, consciousness never left with no appearance so no gaps. Have you ever meditated so deeply that the world just completely fell away and time seemed to stop? If such situation happens, then you can't know.
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Post by laughter on Apr 10, 2015 3:32:36 GMT -5
trains of thoughts! " ? Some people drink Pepsi Some people drink Coke The wacky morning DJ Says democracy's a joke ?"
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Post by laughter on Apr 10, 2015 3:33:09 GMT -5
Have you ever meditated so deeply that the world just completely fell away and time seemed to stop? If such situation happens, then you can't know.
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Post by zin on Apr 10, 2015 3:37:55 GMT -5
trains of thoughts! " ? Some people drink Pepsi Some people drink Coke The wacky morning DJ Says democracy's a joke ?"
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Post by jay17 on Apr 10, 2015 3:38:26 GMT -5
I interpreted laughter's OP as yet another challenge to others so he can then go crazy go nuts, again. to defend his Non Duality\Self realization religion\philosophy\theory\belief system, and denigrate others and their different beliefs along the way. To me, his OP is "I dare you to prove your beliefs are true." So i put the question back to him, "Prove your non duality beliefs are true", while expressing i think it's all rather pointless exercise, and i have no inclining to listen to someone go on and on about something they are passionate about that i am not. I was on path that contained these elements, the believers of that path defending and proclaiming how awesome their beliefs are, and attacking anything contrary. And i was swept up in this stream of consciousness for quite a while, then through a slowly developing self awareness i finally concluded it definitely was not truth and how this could not be seen by those still convinced it was. While people like laughter have found their absolute truth, i contemplate and conclude it ain't true for me, so i have no interest in it. People like laughter have finished their search, their journey, and good on him, i wish him well, but it's always a mixture of funny, sad and facepalming to see him (and others like him) stand on their porches mocking and taunting others still traveling. I was convinced many times i had found absolute truth. Took me a while to see my matrix and discover all those absolute truths were merely subjective ones. Folks around here don't cotton much to absolute truths, and I'd say that includes L. Seems to me we moistly talk about what isn't true, so I would think you would feel right at home. Since 2009 i feel at ease no matter where i am. Seems quite evident to me that laughter, via the OP challenge, desires yet again to prove someone's beliefs false and his non duality one, true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 3:41:47 GMT -5
If such situation happens, then you can't know.
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Post by laughter on Apr 10, 2015 4:06:03 GMT -5
Folks around here don't cotton much to absolute truths, and I'd say that includes L. Seems to me we moistly talk about what isn't true, so I would think you would feel right at home. Since 2009 i feel at ease no matter where i am. Seems quite evident to me that laughter, via the OP challenge, desires yet again to prove someone's beliefs false and his non duality one, true.
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Post by tzujanli on Apr 10, 2015 4:59:23 GMT -5
No, but that thought or similar (or something different) often comes after a few seconds. Okay, you look back and see that the mind was silent for a few seconds. That's great. (I was just saying that, during that silence, you weren't there, because 'you' are in those thoughts.) No, 'you' are the thinker of thoughts..
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Post by tzujanli on Apr 10, 2015 5:03:28 GMT -5
I'm not the owner of my thoughts, but i have exclusive rights to them.. some are spontaneous and unsolicited, some are carefully crafted and intentionally constructed..Those are too spontaneous. Do you understand the words? when you replied, you chose words that expressed you understanding related to my post, you didn't just babble incoherently (giving you the benefit of the doubt).. you intentionally crafted a reply..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 5:31:06 GMT -5
Those are too spontaneous. Do you understand the words? when you replied, you chose words that expressed you understanding related to my post, you didn't just babble incoherently (giving you the benefit of the doubt).. you intentionally crafted a reply.. I understood what you have written clearly, that's the reason I replied. I don't think you would get angry here, I am sorry for that. I said " some are carefully crafted and intentionally constructed.." this statement brings the doer, but it's not, because what we regard as self directed thoughts are also spontaneously arriving.
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Post by tzujanli on Apr 10, 2015 5:58:57 GMT -5
Do you understand the words? when you replied, you chose words that expressed you understanding related to my post, you didn't just babble incoherently (giving you the benefit of the doubt).. you intentionally crafted a reply.. I understood what you have written clearly, that's the reason I replied. I don't think you would get angry here, I am sorry for that. I said " some are carefully crafted and intentionally constructed.." this statement brings the doer, but it's not, because what we regard as self directed thoughts are also spontaneously arriving. We have different understandings of the same experience.. when you choose your thoughts to write posts, are those choices random?.. is there a puppeteer pulling your strings?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 7:42:53 GMT -5
I understood what you have written clearly, that's the reason I replied. I don't think you would get angry here, I am sorry for that. I said " some are carefully crafted and intentionally constructed.." this statement brings the doer, but it's not, because what we regard as self directed thoughts are also spontaneously arriving. We have different understandings of the same experience.. when you choose your thoughts to write posts, are those choices random?.. is there a puppeteer pulling your strings? I am not saying these thoughts are random, I would say this 'I' is choosing, but it's choosing for everyone simultaneously, you and I can't operate separately. If I choose to write, then at the same time it chooses to do something different in the expression of you.
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Post by laughter on Apr 10, 2015 9:46:25 GMT -5
Do you understand the words? when you replied, you chose words that expressed you understanding related to my post, you didn't just babble incoherently (giving you the benefit of the doubt).. you intentionally crafted a reply.. I understood what you have written clearly, that's the reason I replied. I don't think you would get angry here, I am sorry for that. I said " some are carefully crafted and intentionally constructed.." this statement brings the doer, but it's not, because what we regard as self directed thoughts are also spontaneously arriving. Dude, don't worry about the bluster, it's just a slightly different act but definitely the same guy.
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