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Post by tzujanli on Dec 26, 2014 20:14:23 GMT -5
I guess I can try harder. ? You have to have a reason to try harder. Your reason not to be effortlessly aware, must necessarily be self's reason, ego's reason. Ego is the obstruction. You have to choose, will I be the obstruction or will I be effortlessly aware? So E is right, will is the key. Not everyone who runs in the race will win. But you cannot win unless you run. The very definition of ego is mindless automaton. Ego is merely stored continuous-running tape-loops. You have to decide if you are OK with that, or otherwise effortlessly be aware. 'Ego' is an illusion, nonexistent until granted that right by the invocation of its imagined meaning.. choosing to believe in ego, keeps it alive for the duration of the belief.. The 'tape-loops' you describe are the socio-religious conditionings that are mistaken for the definitions of what we 'are', but they are the limitations that distort what we are.. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Dec 26, 2014 20:35:39 GMT -5
You have to have a reason to try harder. Your reason not to be effortlessly aware, must necessarily be self's reason, ego's reason. Ego is the obstruction. You have to choose, will I be the obstruction or will I be effortlessly aware? So E is right, will is the key. Not everyone who runs in the race will win. But you cannot win unless you run. The very definition of ego is mindless automaton. Ego is merely stored continuous-running tape-loops. You have to decide if you are OK with that, or otherwise effortlessly be aware. 'Ego' is an illusion, nonexistent until granted that right by the invocation of its imagined meaning.. choosing to believe in ego, keeps it alive for the duration of the belief.. The 'tape-loops' you describe are the socio-religious conditionings that are mistaken for the definitions of what we 'are', but they are the limitations that distort what we are.. .  |
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Post by freejoy on Dec 26, 2014 21:33:22 GMT -5
Effortless awareness? Everyone has effortless awareness of something.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Dec 26, 2014 22:17:27 GMT -5
Effortless awareness? Everyone has effortless awareness of something. True, but that is usually, meaning almost always, within the confines of ego. I've given in to the language here, because I maintain that awareness outside the confines of ego is..... not....effortless. Being a couch-potato is effortless. Becoming more conscious is not effortless (IMvhO). Becoming more conscious is like a salmon swimming upstream. Becoming more conscious is opposing ego by looking...at...ego, via attention and awareness. Most of the people here on ST's are unsatisfied with living within the confines of ego, even if they don't know that's why they're here. If you don't deliberately choose to be aware, you are bound by ego's chains. |
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Post by freejoy on Dec 26, 2014 22:52:33 GMT -5
The way I understand it is that we come to this world to learn some lesson or achieve some goal or at least find our place in the puzzle of life.
I believe I have missed or messed up this time around and now I'm to old and getting older, past the point where this can happen. Now doomed to live the rest of this life with no hope.
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Post by freejoy on Dec 26, 2014 22:57:20 GMT -5
So I seem frantically grasp, hoping I'm wrong.
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Post by freejoy on Dec 27, 2014 12:43:26 GMT -5
I'm going optimal. It's my only option.  When I'm 160 I'm going to climb a mountain. Sent from my LG phone. Hehehe |
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Post by enigma on Dec 27, 2014 12:44:18 GMT -5
Nobody can lack the ability to be effortlessly aware, only the will. I guess I can try harder. ?  |
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Post by enigma on Dec 27, 2014 12:54:35 GMT -5
You have to have a reason to try harder. Your reason not to be effortlessly aware, must necessarily be self's reason, ego's reason. Ego is the obstruction. You have to choose, will I be the obstruction or will I be effortlessly aware? So E is right, will is the key. Not everyone who runs in the race will win. But you cannot win unless you run. The very definition of ego is mindless automaton. Ego is merely stored continuous-running tape-loops. You have to decide if you are OK with that, or otherwise effortlessly be aware. 'Ego' is an illusion, nonexistent until granted that right by the invocation of its imagined meaning.. choosing to believe in ego, keeps it alive for the duration of the belief.. The 'tape-loops' you describe are the socio-religious conditionings that are mistaken for the definitions of what we 'are', but they are the limitations that distort what we are.. Yes, ego is a set of self referential ideas based on the belief that one is a separate, volitional person, and this is illusion. |
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Post by laughter on Dec 27, 2014 14:30:30 GMT -5
'Ego' is an illusion, nonexistent until granted that right by the invocation of its imagined meaning.. choosing to believe in ego, keeps it alive for the duration of the belief.. The 'tape-loops' you describe are the socio-religious conditionings that are mistaken for the definitions of what we 'are', but they are the limitations that distort what we are.. Yes, ego is a set of self referential ideas based on the belief that one is a separate, volitional person, and this is illusion. The appearance of that separation is a particularly persistent illusion, and one that the senses constantly reinforce, even after the nature of it has become crystal clear. By the senses, of course, I mean to include what we sense of the apparent other, especially when that belief is active in them. |
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Post by tzujanli on Dec 27, 2014 15:06:46 GMT -5
'Ego' is an illusion, nonexistent until granted that right by the invocation of its imagined meaning.. choosing to believe in ego, keeps it alive for the duration of the belief.. The 'tape-loops' you describe are the socio-religious conditionings that are mistaken for the definitions of what we 'are', but they are the limitations that distort what we are.. Yes, ego is a set of self referential ideas based on the belief that one is a separate, volitional person, and this is illusion. No, ego is is just an illusion. Self-referential awareness is natural considering that the separate volitional person interacts with other separate volitional persons in a symphony of collective wholeness.. |
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Post by enigma on Dec 27, 2014 15:18:53 GMT -5
Yes, ego is a set of self referential ideas based on the belief that one is a separate, volitional person, and this is illusion. The appearance of that separation is a particularly persistent illusion, and one that the senses constantly reinforce, even after the nature of it has become crystal clear. By the senses, of course, I mean to include what we sense of the apparent other, especially when that belief is active in them. Yes, it continues to appear separate to the senses. The seeing that it is not, of course, is different than the physical senses. Some teacher said "Separation is an illusion, albeit a persistent one."  |
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Post by enigma on Dec 27, 2014 15:20:25 GMT -5
Yes, ego is a set of self referential ideas based on the belief that one is a separate, volitional person, and this is illusion. Self-referential awareness is natural considering that the separate volitional person interacts with other separate volitional persons in a symphony of collective wholeness.. That's what I just said! |
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Post by tzujanli on Dec 27, 2014 15:50:27 GMT -5
No, ego is is just an illusion. Self-referential awareness is natural considering that the separate volitional person interacts with other separate volitional persons in a symphony of collective wholeness.. That's what I just said! Nice! |
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Post by enigma on Dec 27, 2014 23:23:07 GMT -5
Not only not nice, it's manipulative and toadally lacks integrity. |
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