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Post by justlikeyou on Oct 17, 2014 8:49:14 GMT -5
"The first thing you do after waking up is to meditate on that consciousness, that “I Amness”, worship that consciousness for some time before you start your daily activities. Before you fall asleep at night, again abide in that consciousness, “I Amness”. In such a mood go into sleep. The consciousness which meditates on the Self, that Self will be revealed to you."
"We know little of our inner world of thoughts and feelings. The primary purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with, our inner life."
"Meditation is keeping quiet and watching yourself. Meditation is giving attention to the consciousness."
"But for a seeker for reality there is only one meditation.....the rigorous refusal to harbour thoughts. To be free from thoughts is itself meditation. You begin by letting thoughts flow and watching them. The very observation slows down the mind until it stops altogether. Once the mind is quiet, keep it quiet. Do not get bored with peace, be in it, go deeper into it. Experiment anew, do not go by past experience. Watch your thoughts and watch yourself watching the thoughts. The state of freedom from all thoughts will happen suddenly and by the bliss of it you shall recognize it."
"Meditation is a deliberate attempt to pierce into the higher states of consciousness, and finally go beyond it. The art of meditation is the shifting the focus of attention to ever subtler levels, without losing one’s grip on the levels left behind. In a way it is like having death under control. One begins with the lowest levels. The final stage of meditation is reached when the sense of identity goes beyond the ‘ I-am-so-and-so’, beyond ‘so-I-am’, beyond ‘I-am-the-witness-only’, beyond ‘there-is’, beyond all ideas into the impersonally personal pure being."
"Stabilize yourself by meditation. Your senses are very active, they are not under control. By meditating that particular weakness of your mind will be brought under control. You are moving about like a calf that just jumps about here and there. If you have been trying and cannot. Persistence! That deep longing must be there. You must need something very badly, then you will think of it continuously, you will be persistent about it, then you will reach that stage."
"The only way to give up identification with the body is continuous practice of meditation, and thinking on what the Guru has said. Gradually this self-limitation will disappear and the sense of separation will go. One has to meditate deeply over a long period. Meditation means the beingness absorbing itself into the beingness. Over a long period of this kind of meditation one will come to know the Knower of this beingness. I am the Knower of this consciousness. I can only know something else, I cannot know myself. That riddle will solve itself by continuous deep meditation."
"For meditation you should sit with identification in the knowledge ‘I am’ only. Confirm to yourself that you are not the body. Dwell only in the knowledge ‘I am’, not merely the words ‘I am’. Meditate with the conviction that I am that self only, the atman."
"Meditation is the deliberate daily exercise in discrimination between the true and the false, and renunciation of the false. Seeing the false as the false is meditation."
""You must persist in meditation until you come to a stage when you feel there is no meditation. When the purpose of meditation is gained it will drop off naturally."
"The fulfilment of meditation rests in totally obliterating the memory and non-memory of manifestation along with the sense of being. So long as the guna, sense of being, is there, witnessing happens. Abidance in the non-witnessing state is the advaita state, the highest. Therefore all experience must be swallowed, including the feeling of the sense of being, which is the primordial experience."
"Not through the intellect, but through intense meditation you will realize that you are the universal consciousness."
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Post by zendancer on Oct 17, 2014 12:28:12 GMT -5
"The first thing you do after waking up is to meditate on that consciousness, that “I Amness”, worship that consciousness for some time before you start your daily activities. Before you fall asleep at night, again abide in that consciousness, “I Amness”. In such a mood go into sleep. The consciousness which meditates on the Self, that Self will be revealed to you." "We know little of our inner world of thoughts and feelings. The primary purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with, our inner life." "Meditation is keeping quiet and watching yourself. Meditation is giving attention to the consciousness." "But for a seeker for reality there is only one meditation.....the rigorous refusal to harbour thoughts. To be free from thoughts is itself meditation. You begin by letting thoughts flow and watching them. The very observation slows down the mind until it stops altogether. Once the mind is quiet, keep it quiet. Do not get bored with peace, be in it, go deeper into it. Experiment anew, do not go by past experience. Watch your thoughts and watch yourself watching the thoughts. The state of freedom from all thoughts will happen suddenly and by the bliss of it you shall recognize it." "Meditation is a deliberate attempt to pierce into the higher states of consciousness, and finally go beyond it. The art of meditation is the shifting the focus of attention to ever subtler levels, without losing one’s grip on the levels left behind. In a way it is like having death under control. One begins with the lowest levels. The final stage of meditation is reached when the sense of identity goes beyond the ‘ I-am-so-and-so’, beyond ‘so-I-am’, beyond ‘I-am-the-witness-only’, beyond ‘there-is’, beyond all ideas into the impersonally personal pure being." "Stabilize yourself by meditation. Your senses are very active, they are not under control. By meditating that particular weakness of your mind will be brought under control. You are moving about like a calf that just jumps about here and there. If you have been trying and cannot. Persistence! That deep longing must be there. You must need something very badly, then you will think of it continuously, you will be persistent about it, then you will reach that stage." "The only way to give up identification with the body is continuous practice of meditation, and thinking on what the Guru has said. Gradually this self-limitation will disappear and the sense of separation will go. One has to meditate deeply over a long period. Meditation means the beingness absorbing itself into the beingness. Over a long period of this kind of meditation one will come to know the Knower of this beingness. I am the Knower of this consciousness. I can only know something else, I cannot know myself. That riddle will solve itself by continuous deep meditation." "For meditation you should sit with identification in the knowledge ‘I am’ only. Confirm to yourself that you are not the body. Dwell only in the knowledge ‘I am’, not merely the words ‘I am’. Meditate with the conviction that I am that self only, the atman." "Meditation is the deliberate daily exercise in discrimination between the true and the false, and renunciation of the false. Seeing the false as the false is meditation." ""You must persist in meditation until you come to a stage when you feel there is no meditation. When the purpose of meditation is gained it will drop off naturally." "The fulfilment of meditation rests in totally obliterating the memory and non-memory of manifestation along with the sense of being. So long as the guna, sense of being, is there, witnessing happens. Abidance in the non-witnessing state is the advaita state, the highest. Therefore all experience must be swallowed, including the feeling of the sense of being, which is the primordial experience." "Not through the intellect, but through intense meditation you will realize that you are the universal consciousness." That seems clear enough. Wasn't it Pope who wrote, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing; drink deep or taste not the Pierian Spring?" |
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Post by steven on Oct 17, 2014 22:35:36 GMT -5
"The first thing you do after waking up is to meditate on that consciousness, that “I Amness”, worship that consciousness for some time before you start your daily activities. Before you fall asleep at night, again abide in that consciousness, “I Amness”. In such a mood go into sleep. The consciousness which meditates on the Self, that Self will be revealed to you." "We know little of our inner world of thoughts and feelings. The primary purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with, our inner life." "Meditation is keeping quiet and watching yourself. Meditation is giving attention to the consciousness." "But for a seeker for reality there is only one meditation.....the rigorous refusal to harbour thoughts. To be free from thoughts is itself meditation. You begin by letting thoughts flow and watching them. The very observation slows down the mind until it stops altogether. Once the mind is quiet, keep it quiet. Do not get bored with peace, be in it, go deeper into it. Experiment anew, do not go by past experience. Watch your thoughts and watch yourself watching the thoughts. The state of freedom from all thoughts will happen suddenly and by the bliss of it you shall recognize it." "Meditation is a deliberate attempt to pierce into the higher states of consciousness, and finally go beyond it. The art of meditation is the shifting the focus of attention to ever subtler levels, without losing one’s grip on the levels left behind. In a way it is like having death under control. One begins with the lowest levels. The final stage of meditation is reached when the sense of identity goes beyond the ‘ I-am-so-and-so’, beyond ‘so-I-am’, beyond ‘I-am-the-witness-only’, beyond ‘there-is’, beyond all ideas into the impersonally personal pure being." "Stabilize yourself by meditation. Your senses are very active, they are not under control. By meditating that particular weakness of your mind will be brought under control. You are moving about like a calf that just jumps about here and there. If you have been trying and cannot. Persistence! That deep longing must be there. You must need something very badly, then you will think of it continuously, you will be persistent about it, then you will reach that stage." "The only way to give up identification with the body is continuous practice of meditation, and thinking on what the Guru has said. Gradually this self-limitation will disappear and the sense of separation will go. One has to meditate deeply over a long period. Meditation means the beingness absorbing itself into the beingness. Over a long period of this kind of meditation one will come to know the Knower of this beingness. I am the Knower of this consciousness. I can only know something else, I cannot know myself. That riddle will solve itself by continuous deep meditation." "For meditation you should sit with identification in the knowledge ‘I am’ only. Confirm to yourself that you are not the body. Dwell only in the knowledge ‘I am’, not merely the words ‘I am’. Meditate with the conviction that I am that self only, the atman." "Meditation is the deliberate daily exercise in discrimination between the true and the false, and renunciation of the false. Seeing the false as the false is meditation." ""You must persist in meditation until you come to a stage when you feel there is no meditation. When the purpose of meditation is gained it will drop off naturally." "The fulfilment of meditation rests in totally obliterating the memory and non-memory of manifestation along with the sense of being. So long as the guna, sense of being, is there, witnessing happens. Abidance in the non-witnessing state is the advaita state, the highest. Therefore all experience must be swallowed, including the feeling of the sense of being, which is the primordial experience." "Not through the intellect, but through intense meditation you will realize that you are the universal consciousness." You also need to find the thing that keeps thought arising, and moving along in patterns, investigate it thoroughly to remove the mystery, and let it go...otherwise meditation will only be a bridge filling the gaps between thoughts. There is something deep within you that drives you, moves you into thought...find that...whatever it is...and let it go....and with it, whatever it is, will go this unconcious compulsion for thinking thinking thinking. As most of you know by now...my 'thing' was 'knowing' Without an intention to know, or the need to know, to uncover, to explore unknown frontiers and 'know' them, without those compulsions, the momentum of thought ceased. What's your 'thing'. Ya Need both together to go fully down this path: Earnest Meditation, and a rooting out of that which drives you along. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 23:45:21 GMT -5
"The first thing you do after waking up is to meditate on that consciousness, that “I Amness”, worship that consciousness for some time before you start your daily activities. Before you fall asleep at night, again abide in that consciousness, “I Amness”. In such a mood go into sleep. The consciousness which meditates on the Self, that Self will be revealed to you." "We know little of our inner world of thoughts and feelings. The primary purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with, our inner life." "Meditation is keeping quiet and watching yourself. Meditation is giving attention to the consciousness." "But for a seeker for reality there is only one meditation.....the rigorous refusal to harbour thoughts. To be free from thoughts is itself meditation. You begin by letting thoughts flow and watching them. The very observation slows down the mind until it stops altogether. Once the mind is quiet, keep it quiet. Do not get bored with peace, be in it, go deeper into it. Experiment anew, do not go by past experience. Watch your thoughts and watch yourself watching the thoughts. The state of freedom from all thoughts will happen suddenly and by the bliss of it you shall recognize it." "Meditation is a deliberate attempt to pierce into the higher states of consciousness, and finally go beyond it. The art of meditation is the shifting the focus of attention to ever subtler levels, without losing one’s grip on the levels left behind. In a way it is like having death under control. One begins with the lowest levels. The final stage of meditation is reached when the sense of identity goes beyond the ‘ I-am-so-and-so’, beyond ‘so-I-am’, beyond ‘I-am-the-witness-only’, beyond ‘there-is’, beyond all ideas into the impersonally personal pure being." "Stabilize yourself by meditation. Your senses are very active, they are not under control. By meditating that particular weakness of your mind will be brought under control. You are moving about like a calf that just jumps about here and there. If you have been trying and cannot. Persistence! That deep longing must be there. You must need something very badly, then you will think of it continuously, you will be persistent about it, then you will reach that stage." "The only way to give up identification with the body is continuous practice of meditation, and thinking on what the Guru has said. Gradually this self-limitation will disappear and the sense of separation will go. One has to meditate deeply over a long period. Meditation means the beingness absorbing itself into the beingness. Over a long period of this kind of meditation one will come to know the Knower of this beingness. I am the Knower of this consciousness. I can only know something else, I cannot know myself. That riddle will solve itself by continuous deep meditation." "For meditation you should sit with identification in the knowledge ‘I am’ only. Confirm to yourself that you are not the body. Dwell only in the knowledge ‘I am’, not merely the words ‘I am’. Meditate with the conviction that I am that self only, the atman." "Meditation is the deliberate daily exercise in discrimination between the true and the false, and renunciation of the false. Seeing the false as the false is meditation." ""You must persist in meditation until you come to a stage when you feel there is no meditation. When the purpose of meditation is gained it will drop off naturally." "The fulfilment of meditation rests in totally obliterating the memory and non-memory of manifestation along with the sense of being. So long as the guna, sense of being, is there, witnessing happens. Abidance in the non-witnessing state is the advaita state, the highest. Therefore all experience must be swallowed, including the feeling of the sense of being, which is the primordial experience." "Not through the intellect, but through intense meditation you will realize that you are the universal consciousness." You also need to find the thing that keeps thought arising, and moving along in patterns, investigate it thoroughly to remove the mystery, and let it go...otherwise meditation will only be a bridge filling the gaps between thoughts. There is something deep within you that drives you, moves you into thought...find that...whatever it is...and let it go....and with it, whatever it is, will go this unconcious compulsion for thinking thinking thinking. As most of you know by now...my 'thing' was 'knowing' Without an intention to know, or the need to know, to uncover, to explore unknown frontiers and 'know' them, without those compulsions, the momentum of thought ceased. What's your 'thing'. Ya Need both together to go fully down this path: Earnest Meditation, and a rooting out of that which drives you along. good post steve... That something deep within you that drives us all,
fueling thought upon thoughts... is something to smoke~on. Currently mixing music and mandala~art as well as realizing lyrics... mainly blues as blues take me closer. What ever happened to Sharon, was she required to attend her children? Attachments:
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Post by laughter on Oct 18, 2014 4:42:18 GMT -5
"The first thing you do after waking up is to meditate on that consciousness, that “I Amness”, worship that consciousness for some time before you start your daily activities. Before you fall asleep at night, again abide in that consciousness, “I Amness”. In such a mood go into sleep. The consciousness which meditates on the Self, that Self will be revealed to you." "We know little of our inner world of thoughts and feelings. The primary purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with, our inner life." "Meditation is keeping quiet and watching yourself. Meditation is giving attention to the consciousness." "But for a seeker for reality there is only one meditation.....the rigorous refusal to harbour thoughts. To be free from thoughts is itself meditation. You begin by letting thoughts flow and watching them. The very observation slows down the mind until it stops altogether. Once the mind is quiet, keep it quiet. Do not get bored with peace, be in it, go deeper into it. Experiment anew, do not go by past experience. Watch your thoughts and watch yourself watching the thoughts. The state of freedom from all thoughts will happen suddenly and by the bliss of it you shall recognize it." "Meditation is a deliberate attempt to pierce into the higher states of consciousness, and finally go beyond it. The art of meditation is the shifting the focus of attention to ever subtler levels, without losing one’s grip on the levels left behind. In a way it is like having death under control. One begins with the lowest levels. The final stage of meditation is reached when the sense of identity goes beyond the ‘ I-am-so-and-so’, beyond ‘so-I-am’, beyond ‘I-am-the-witness-only’, beyond ‘there-is’, beyond all ideas into the impersonally personal pure being." "Stabilize yourself by meditation. Your senses are very active, they are not under control. By meditating that particular weakness of your mind will be brought under control. You are moving about like a calf that just jumps about here and there. If you have been trying and cannot. Persistence! That deep longing must be there. You must need something very badly, then you will think of it continuously, you will be persistent about it, then you will reach that stage." "The only way to give up identification with the body is continuous practice of meditation, and thinking on what the Guru has said. Gradually this self-limitation will disappear and the sense of separation will go. One has to meditate deeply over a long period. Meditation means the beingness absorbing itself into the beingness. Over a long period of this kind of meditation one will come to know the Knower of this beingness. I am the Knower of this consciousness. I can only know something else, I cannot know myself. That riddle will solve itself by continuous deep meditation." "For meditation you should sit with identification in the knowledge ‘I am’ only. Confirm to yourself that you are not the body. Dwell only in the knowledge ‘I am’, not merely the words ‘I am’. Meditate with the conviction that I am that self only, the atman." "Meditation is the deliberate daily exercise in discrimination between the true and the false, and renunciation of the false. Seeing the false as the false is meditation." ""You must persist in meditation until you come to a stage when you feel there is no meditation. When the purpose of meditation is gained it will drop off naturally." "The fulfilment of meditation rests in totally obliterating the memory and non-memory of manifestation along with the sense of being. So long as the guna, sense of being, is there, witnessing happens. Abidance in the non-witnessing state is the advaita state, the highest. Therefore all experience must be swallowed, including the feeling of the sense of being, which is the primordial experience." "Not through the intellect, but through intense meditation you will realize that you are the universal consciousness." But Niz was also very clear on the nature of meditation. There is this translation between sadhanna and "practice" that is deceptive to the Western mind with the common conditioning of a fear-based work ethic. The effort of meditation, is bound to fail. Niz has to be taken in the full context of, not only what he says in a given dialog, but how he approaches the various dialogs differently depending on who he's speaking with. (From Chapter 69 of "I AM THAT", "Transiency is Proof of Unreality")
Q: So far I have been following you. Now, what am I supposed to do? Niz: There is nothing to do. Just be. Do nothing. Be. Q: But what can I do here and now? M: You can be aware of your being -- here and now. Q: That is all? M: That is all. There is nothing more to it. (para 23, dialog 30 of "I AM THAT", "You are Free NOW")
(para's 13-15 from Chapter 42 of "I AM THAT", "Reality Cannot Be Expressed")
Niz: What is seedless and rootless, what does not sprout and grow, flower and fruit, what comes into being suddenly and in full glory, mysteriously and marvellously, you may call that 'god'. It is entirely unexpected yet inevitable, infinitely familiar yet most surprising, beyond all hope yet absolutely certain. Q: How can I bring it about? Niz: You can do nothing to bring it about, but you can avoid creating obstacles. ... Reality is not the result of a process; (From Chapter 7 of "I AM THAT", "The Mind" para's 6-15)
Q: how do you know you are in the supreme state? M: Because I am in it. It is the only natural state. Q: Can you describe it? M: Only by negation, as uncaused, independent, unrelated, undivided, uncomposed, unshakable, unquestionable, unreachable by effort. Every positive definition is from memory and, therefore, inapplicable. And yet my state is supremely actual and, therefore, possible, realisable, attainable. (From Chapter 64 of "I AM THAT", "Whatever Pleases You Keeps You Back")Q: We were told that of all forms of spiritual practices, the practice of the attitude of a mere witness is the most efficacious. How does it compare with faith? Niz: The witness attitude is also faith -- faith in oneself. You believe that you are not what you experience and you look at everything as if from a distance. There is no effort in witnessing. Q: One has to remember not to remember. What a task! Niz: It cannot be done, of course -- it must happen. But it does happen when you truly see the need of it. Again, earnestness is the golden key. (From chapter 66 of "I AM THAT", "All Search for Happiness is Misery")
Niz: You already have all the experience you need, otherwise you would not have come here. You need not gather any more, rather you must go beyond experience. Whatever effort you make, whatever method (sadhana) you follow will merely generate more experience but will not take you beyond. Niz: When effort is needed, effort will appear. When effortlessness becomes essential, it will assert itself. You need not push life about. Just flow with it and give yourself completely to the task of the present moment, which is the dying now to the now. For living is dying. Without death life cannot be. Chapter 33 of "I AM THAT", "Everything Happens by Itself" seeker: To do what you tell me I must be ceaselessly aware. Niz: To be aware is to be awake. Unaware means asleep. You are aware anyhow; you need not try to be. What you need is to be aware of being aware. Be aware deliberately and consciously; broaden and deepen the field of awareness. You are always conscious of the mind, but you are not aware of yourself as being conscious. (from chapter 48 of "I AM THAT", "Awareness Is Free") (From Chapter 76 of "I AM THAT", "To Know That You do not Know is True Knowledge")Q: Are you not making realization the result of practice? Practice operates within the limitations of physical existence. How can it give birth to the unlimited? Niz: Of course, there can be no causal connection between practice and wisdom. But the obstacles to wisdom are deeply affected by practice. Questioner: It will take much time if I just wait for self-realization. Maharaj: What have you to wait for when it is already here and now? You have only to look and see. Look at your self, at your own being. You know that you are and you like it. Abandon all imagining, that is all. Do not rely on time. Time is death. Who waits--dies. Life is now only. Do not talk to me about past and future--they exist only in your mind. ( From Chapter 99 of "I AM THAT", "The Perceived Cannot be the Perceiver")Niz: Nothing you do will change you, for you need no change. You may change your mind or your body, but it is always something external to you that has changed, not yourself. Why bother at all to change? Realize once and for all that neither your body nor your mind nor even your consciousness is yourself, and stand alone in your true nature beyond consciousness and unconsciousness. No effort can take you there, only the clarity of understanding. Trace your misunderstandings and abandon them, that is all. There is nothing to seek and find, for there is nothing lost. Relax and watch the 'I am'. Reality is just behind it. Keep quiet, keep silent; it will emerge or, rather, it will take you in. Q: Must I not get rid of my body and mind first? Niz: You cannot, for the very idea binds you to them. Just understand and disregard. Q: I am unable to disregard, for I am not integrated. Niz: Imagine that you are completely integrated, your thought and action fully coordinated. How will it help you? It will not free you from mistaking yourself to be the body or the mind. See them correctly as 'not you', that is all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 5:15:24 GMT -5
You also need to find the thing that keeps thought arising, and moving along in patterns, investigate it thoroughly to remove the mystery, and let it go...otherwise meditation will only be a bridge filling the gaps between thoughts. There is something deep within you that drives you, moves you into thought...find that...whatever it is...and let it go....and with it, whatever it is, will go this unconcious compulsion for thinking thinking thinking. As most of you know by now...my 'thing' was 'knowing' Without an intention to know, or the need to know, to uncover, to explore unknown frontiers and 'know' them, without those compulsions, the momentum of thought ceased. What's your 'thing'. Ya Need both together to go fully down this path: Earnest Meditation, and a rooting out of that which drives you along. good post steve... That something deep within you that drives us all,
fueling thought upon thoughts... is something to smoke~on. Currently mixing music and mandala~art as well as realizing lyrics... mainly blues as blues take me closer. What ever happened to Sharon,
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Post by justlikeyou on Oct 19, 2014 7:14:37 GMT -5
Niz: "Try to be. Only to be. Allot enough time daily for sitting quietly and trying, just trying, to go beyond the personality, with its addictions and obsessions. Do not ask how, it cannot be explained. The all-important word is ‘try’. You just keep on trying until you succeed. If you persevere, there can be no failure. What matters supremely is sincerity, earnestness. You must really have had surfeit of being the person you are, now see the urgent need of being free of this unnecessary self-identification with a bundle of memories and habits. This steady resistance against the unnecessary is the secret of success."
"Pay no attention to your thoughts. Do not fight them. Just do nothing about them, let them be, whatever they are. Your very fighting them gives them life. Just disregard. Look through. Remember to remember: ‘Whatever happens.....happens because I am. All reminds you that you are. Take full advantage of the fact that to experience you must be. You need not stop thinking. Just cease being interested. It is disinterestedness that liberates. Do not hold on, that is all. The world is made of rings. The hooks are all yours. Make straight your hooks and nothing can hold you. Give up your addictions. There is nothing else to give up. Stop your routine of acquisitiveness, your habit of looking for results, and the freedom of the universe is yours. Be effortless."
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Post by laughter on Oct 19, 2014 8:58:07 GMT -5
Niz: "Try to be. Only to be. Allot enough time daily for sitting quietly and trying, just trying, to go beyond the personality, with its addictions and obsessions. Do not ask how, it cannot be explained. The all-important word is ‘try’. You just keep on trying until you succeed. If you persevere, there can be no failure. What matters supremely is sincerity, earnestness. You must really have had surfeit of being the person you are, now see the urgent need of being free of this unnecessary self-identification with a bundle of memories and habits. This steady resistance against the unnecessary is the secret of success." And at the start of the dialog (3rd para, #98 in "I AM THAT") is: Niz: Just be. Do not try to be quiet; do not make 'being quiet' into a task to be performed. No, Niz is very very clear on the nature of effort: Niz: When effort is needed, effort will appear. When effortlessness becomes essential, it will assert itself. You need not push life about. Just flow with it and give yourself completely to the task of the present moment, which is the dying now to the now. For living is dying. Without death life cannot be. Chapter 33 of "I AM THAT", "Everything Happens by Itself" ... note the name of the dialog. Effort is for peeps who are self-identified, and the title of the chapter you took your out of context quote from is "Freedom from Self-identification". Read the rest of it and the context will become clear. When effortlessness asserts itself the truth about what was thought to have been effort also, becomes quite clear. |
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Post by laughter on Oct 19, 2014 9:11:26 GMT -5
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Post by enigma on Oct 19, 2014 11:25:09 GMT -5
Peter: "I call it just noticing" Tolle: "So often the technique becomes the obstacle" Peter is my new best friend. Hehe. It becomes very subtle, and an appreciation of that subtle turning of attention and 'looking' will reveal the nonsense in effortful practices aimed at effortlessness. That turning can be done anytime, including here on the forum, because it is effortless. I wouldn't formalize it into a practice but rather make it a way of being; a way of encountering life. |
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Post by laughter on Oct 19, 2014 11:42:35 GMT -5
Peter: "I call it just noticing" Tolle: "So often the technique becomes the obstacle" Peter is my new best friend. Hehe. It becomes very subtle, and an appreciation of that subtle turning of attention and 'looking' will reveal the nonsense in effortful practices aimed at effortlessness. That turning can be done anytime, including here on the forum, because it is effortless. I wouldn't formalize it into a practice but rather make it a way of being; a way of encountering life.Every instant is an opportunity. Who we are rests irrevocably deep within and is splashed large and loud and colorfully all about us. Every moment is a chance to forget that. Every instant is an offer to know it. How could this ever end? What is this “losing it” they’re babbling on about? … ah, but the sweet peace of knowing dulls the point of awareness and the laughing thief reclining with his feet on my coffee table went unnoticed as he slipped back in. Every second is an invitation to maintain that awareness. Every moment is the gift of grace which begs our acceptance. Every instant is an opportunity. The truth that there is no I is balanced in the paradox by the truth that there is a you and in those precious instants when the windows on the soul are open to me all speculation ends even as I witness what is within by gazing steadily without. Every instant is an opportunity, even those instants when your eyes are closed to me. Every tick of the clock is the sound of a temple bell. Every noon whistle a caress of the ears, a reminder that the devil will have his due. Every cry of the cuckoo is an opportunity to smile at the devil and to see him evaporate in the parlor trick of his smoky vanishing act. Every minute is a chance to reclaim the stolen now from the thief. In every hour of every day the promise of victory by surrender is not only a promise, it is all that there is, ever will be and ever was. Every instant is an opportunity. Take my love thief, its all that you can ever steal from me. Every instant is an opportunity. |
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Post by silver on Oct 19, 2014 11:45:49 GMT -5
Peter: "I call it just noticing" Tolle: "So often the technique becomes the obstacle" Peter is my new best friend. Hehe. It becomes very subtle, and an appreciation of that subtle turning of attention and 'looking' will reveal the nonsense in effortful practices aimed at effortlessness. That turning can be done anytime, including here on the forum, because it is effortless. I wouldn't formalize it into a practice but rather make it a way of being; a way of encountering life. Yeah, that's all good -- just remember that he said it took him years before it started dawning on him. Whenever I visit SF, there's always someone asking for help in being a better meditator and they describe all sorts of probs freeing their mind of thoughts, etc. I don't know how 'new' this trend is, but I'm sure lots of people have figured it out, about not straining so, to resist any thoughts that come up when they're 'trying' to meditate, ha ha. Plus, Peter is probably making good money (Idk...but that would be my guess) over the years, being a leader, teacher, and so on, so now he's established and he can get out in front and say hey, it's all about relaxing.  |
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Post by enigma on Oct 19, 2014 12:13:17 GMT -5
Peter: "I call it just noticing" Tolle: "So often the technique becomes the obstacle" Peter is my new best friend. Hehe. It becomes very subtle, and an appreciation of that subtle turning of attention and 'looking' will reveal the nonsense in effortful practices aimed at effortlessness. That turning can be done anytime, including here on the forum, because it is effortless. I wouldn't formalize it into a practice but rather make it a way of being; a way of encountering life.Every instant is an opportunity. Who we are rests irrevocably deep within and is splashed large and loud and colorfully all about us. Every moment is a chance to forget that. Every instant is an offer to know it. How could this ever end? What is this “losing it” they’re babbling on about? … ah, but the sweet peace of knowing dulls the point of awareness and the laughing thief reclining with his feet on my coffee table went unnoticed as he slipped back in. Every second is an invitation to maintain that awareness. Every moment is the gift of grace which begs our acceptance. Every instant is an opportunity. The truth that there is no I is balanced in the paradox by the truth that there is a you and in those precious instants when the windows on the soul are open to me all speculation ends even as I witness what is within by gazing steadily without. Every instant is an opportunity, even those instants when your eyes are closed to me. Every tick of the clock is the sound of a temple bell. Every noon whistle a caress of the ears, a reminder that the devil will have his due. Every cry of the cuckoo is an opportunity to smile at the devil and to see him evaporate in the parlor trick of his smoky vanishing act. Every minute is a chance to reclaim the stolen now from the thief. In every hour of every day the promise of victory by surrender is not only a promise, it is all that there is, ever will be and ever was. Every instant is an opportunity. Take my love thief, its all that you can ever steal from me. Every instant is an opportunity. Nice... Yes, it's always now. When I hear of a practice that will bring something about in the future, I know this has been forgotten. It's not like one has to prepare oneself for being fully conscious here and now. The only way to do that is to be that. |
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Post by enigma on Oct 19, 2014 12:16:19 GMT -5
Peter: "I call it just noticing" Tolle: "So often the technique becomes the obstacle" Peter is my new best friend. Hehe. It becomes very subtle, and an appreciation of that subtle turning of attention and 'looking' will reveal the nonsense in effortful practices aimed at effortlessness. That turning can be done anytime, including here on the forum, because it is effortless. I wouldn't formalize it into a practice but rather make it a way of being; a way of encountering life. Yeah, that's all good -- just remember that he said it took him years before it started dawning on him. Whenever I visit SF, there's always someone asking for help in being a better meditator and they describe all sorts of probs freeing their mind of thoughts, etc. I don't know how 'new' this trend is, but I'm sure lots of people have figured it out, about not straining so, to resist any thoughts that come up when they're 'trying' to meditate, ha ha. Plus, Peter is probably making good money (Idk...but that would be my guess) over the years, being a leader, teacher, and so on, so now he's established and he can get out in front and say hey, it's all about relaxing. If only there were someone in his life pointing to that sooner, it might have saved him years. |
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Post by silver on Oct 19, 2014 12:20:33 GMT -5
Yeah, that's all good -- just remember that he said it took him years before it started dawning on him. Whenever I visit SF, there's always someone asking for help in being a better meditator and they describe all sorts of probs freeing their mind of thoughts, etc. I don't know how 'new' this trend is, but I'm sure lots of people have figured it out, about not straining so, to resist any thoughts that come up when they're 'trying' to meditate, ha ha. Plus, Peter is probably making good money (Idk...but that would be my guess) over the years, being a leader, teacher, and so on, so now he's established and he can get out in front and say hey, it's all about relaxing. If only there were someone in his life pointing to that sooner, it might have saved him years. Saved? I thought wherever a person is, is cool. I forget how that goes... |
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