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Post by quinn on Sept 21, 2014 13:10:16 GMT -5
Let's just stay in one metaphor for a second...drops and ocean. Just for a second. If you remove the ocean, where are the drops? If you remove the drops, where is the ocean? It's just a simple little metaphor that nicely describes non-separation. Expanding the metaphor like you did makes for a much more complex conversation. In my experience, complexity moves further away from seeing something as simple as non-separation. Then we get to start talking about how fundamentally rain is no different than our bodies which are fundamentally no different than the cosmos. Lots of fodder for debate there. The ocean metaphor, in its simplicity, points to something that can ring true in our hearts. It's below-the-neck stuff. I find this to be well said. It occurs to me that if it generates above the neck stuff, then isn't that a clue to us that we should throw it away? Heh heh. I think it's always going to generate above the neck stuff, but yeah. For this bizness, throw it away.
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Post by quinn on Sept 21, 2014 13:17:16 GMT -5
Ease and grace doesn't sound TMT to me at all. Rhyme and reason, though...that sounds like a mental overlay. Not something I've seen, anyway. Rhyme and reason- something wants to know/experience itself through this experience, or that. Oh. Is that similar to SDP's Supreme Ordering Intelligence? I just heard a speaker talk about Love wanting to come back into itself to bring the light of awareness to any shadows or unexpressed energy. Interesting subject from a non-dual teacher.
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Post by silver on Sept 21, 2014 13:18:32 GMT -5
A drop is the product of a drip. A drop is the product of...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 13:21:07 GMT -5
Rhyme and reason- something wants to know/experience itself through this experience, or that. Oh. Is that similar to SDP's Supreme Ordering Intelligence? I just heard a speaker talk about Love wanting to come back into itself to bring the light of awareness to any shadows or unexpressed energy. Interesting subject from a non-dual teacher. I've only been back a few days, so I'm not familiar with SDP's SOI.
Yes, that IS an interesting subject coming from a non dual teacher. Anything more online from that speaker?
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Post by quinn on Sept 21, 2014 13:36:41 GMT -5
Oh. Is that similar to SDP's Supreme Ordering Intelligence? I just heard a speaker talk about Love wanting to come back into itself to bring the light of awareness to any shadows or unexpressed energy. Interesting subject from a non-dual teacher. I've only been back a few days, so I'm not familiar with SDP's SOI.
Yes, that IS an interesting subject coming from a non dual teacher. Anything more online from that speaker?
Sharon Landrith The basics of her teachings on her website: sharon-landrith.comAn interview. It's long and I haven't seen it, but a couple of people mentioned to me that it was good: Buddha at the Gas Pump on YouTube
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Post by enigma on Sept 21, 2014 13:40:53 GMT -5
God is not watching over you. I didn't say God was. I'm guessing you're responding to the shouldering remark.
I'm saying everything is just fine.
Yes, if you don't have to shoulder it on your own, who's sharing the burden or helping out or watching over you? I'm pretty sure you don't mean me, so who/what do you mean?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 13:42:04 GMT -5
I've only been back a few days, so I'm not familiar with SDP's SOI.
Yes, that IS an interesting subject coming from a non dual teacher. Anything more online from that speaker?
Sharon Landrith The basics of her teachings on her website: sharon-landrith.comAn interview. It's long and I haven't seen it, but a couple of people mentioned to me that it was good: Buddha at the Gas Pump on YouTubeThanks. I'll check out the website, and take in the interview next time I'm in town.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:12:59 GMT -5
I didn't say God was. I'm guessing you're responding to the shouldering remark.
I'm saying everything is just fine.
Yes, if you don't have to shoulder it on your own, who's sharing the burden or helping out or watching over you? I'm pretty sure you don't mean me, so who/what do you mean? I'm saying there is a local, and non local aspect to every experience. It depends on where our attention is.
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Post by laughter on Sept 21, 2014 14:36:07 GMT -5
I find this to be well said. It occurs to me that if it generates above the neck stuff, then isn't that a clue to us that we should throw it away? Heh heh. I think it's always going to generate above the neck stuff, but yeah. For this bizness, throw it away. That can be questioned.
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Post by quinn on Sept 21, 2014 14:42:53 GMT -5
Heh heh. I think it's always going to generate above the neck stuff, but yeah. For this bizness, throw it away. That can be questioned. You got one of those still minds I keep hearing about?
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Post by laughter on Sept 21, 2014 14:52:00 GMT -5
That can be questioned. You got one of those still minds I keep hearing about? (** muttley snicker **)
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Post by laughter on Sept 21, 2014 15:05:13 GMT -5
That can be questioned. You got one of those still minds I keep hearing about? ... oh, and here's a non-DWAD for you : 1) Rational thoughts about the metaphor. 2) Thoughts about someone else's rational thoughts about the metaphor.
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Post by quinn on Sept 21, 2014 15:55:59 GMT -5
You got one of those still minds I keep hearing about? ... oh, and here's a non-DWAD for you : 1) Rational thoughts about the metaphor. 2) Thoughts about someone else's rational thoughts about the metaphor. I seem to have lost track of this conversation.
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Post by silver on Sept 21, 2014 16:14:28 GMT -5
You got one of those still minds I keep hearing about? ... oh, and here's a non-DWAD for you : 1) Rational thoughts about the metaphor. 2) Thoughts about someone else's rational thoughts about the metaphor. I suggest: 'DWOAD' wait a minit...shouldn't the first one have been DWOAD?
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Post by silver on Sept 21, 2014 16:15:29 GMT -5
... oh, and here's a non-DWAD for you : 1) Rational thoughts about the metaphor. 2) Thoughts about someone else's rational thoughts about the metaphor. I seem to have lost track of this conversation.
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