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Post by laughter on Jul 25, 2014 23:41:25 GMT -5
I see it that way , the sense of me cannot be objectified and what is seen is not separate from seeing . yikes you gotta be fast to duck under that ax.. Right, so Niz's "the I am" is a nonsense. Nah, just a pointer to any peep that misidentifies with some "I am <whatev>".
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Post by silence on Jul 26, 2014 0:25:06 GMT -5
In other news, some random homeless guy says to embrace the "I am". Discuss.
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Post by someNOTHING! on Jul 26, 2014 0:34:00 GMT -5
There ya go! Have there even been any reports of him having hacked the heads off of any of his students? I'm no expert on Bidi Baba, but that would likely have been reserved for the more advanced students still wandering the halls of the ascended 5th dimension putting up "help wanted" posters!
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Post by someNOTHING! on Jul 26, 2014 0:49:02 GMT -5
In other news, some random homeless guy says to embrace the "I am". Discuss. Hey, was That saying that down on W. Central, dressed in a tutu, pointing to his free willie with a tattoo on it that said "I am"? I am still speechless.
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Post by someNOTHING! on Jul 26, 2014 1:06:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the capitalized stuff is just referring to that "That" which peeps are ultimately looking for. A simple distinguisher in a messy biz. And that's the Truth. Sshhhh.... Now. Feel that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 2:34:42 GMT -5
And that's the Truth. Sshhhh.... Now. Feel that? first verse... that came back the other night the other nite, the other nite that came back the other night that's when I took flight.
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Post by freejoy on Aug 2, 2014 13:55:00 GMT -5
Have there even been any reports of him having hacked the heads off of any of his students? P-) I'm no expert on Bidi Baba, but that would likely have been reserved for the more advanced students still wandering the halls of the ascended 5th dimension putting up "help wanted" posters! P-) You said I'm and that's the same as "I Am" so it couldn't be true! hehe So I guess you are an expert on Bibi Baba.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 10:25:41 GMT -5
"There is the body and there is the Self. Between them is the mind which is reflected as “I am”. Because of the imperfections of the mind, its crudity and restlessness, lack of discernment and insight, it takes itself to be the body and not the Self. All that is needed is to purify the mind so that it can realize its identity with the Self."
"To know that you need nothing to be happy except self-knowledge is wisdom."
"Discovery cannot come as long as you cling to the familiar. It is only when you realize fully the immense sorrow of your life and revolt against it that a way out can be found.
"See the urgent need of being free of this unnecessary self-identification with a bundle of memories and habits. This steady resistance against the unnecessary is the secret of success."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 10:33:14 GMT -5
What does "purify the mind" mean, really? If mind is thought and thinking, what is purifying it mean? It's not about the content of thought and thinking. It must be about the presence or absence of thinking/thought. So purify means just stop.
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Post by quinn on Jul 16, 2015 10:52:39 GMT -5
What does "purify the mind" mean, really? If mind is thought and thinking, what is purifying it mean? It's not about the content of thought and thinking. It must be about the presence or absence of thinking/thought. So purify means just stop. The way I'm reading your quote, it's pointing to purifying how we use mind and the contents, not to stopping mind. "Because of the imperfections of the mind, its crudity and restlessness, lack of discernment and insight, it takes itself to be the body and not the Self." It could also be interpreted to mean that purifying the mind involved developing the opposite of those. Perfect the mind. Refine the mind. Calm the mind. Develop discernment. Develop insight. (Sounds quite Buddhist put that way.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 12:44:45 GMT -5
What does "purify the mind" mean, really? If mind is thought and thinking, what is purifying it mean? It's not about the content of thought and thinking. It must be about the presence or absence of thinking/thought. So purify means just stop. The way I'm reading your quote, it's pointing to purifying how we use mind and the contents, not to stopping mind. "Because of the imperfections of the mind, its crudity and restlessness, lack of discernment and insight, it takes itself to be the body and not the Self." It could also be interpreted to mean that purifying the mind involved developing the opposite of those. Perfect the mind. Refine the mind. Calm the mind. Develop discernment. Develop insight. (Sounds quite Buddhist put that way.) I see what you're saying. More like recalibration. It sounds like quite a project to me. Yes, like buddhism. My hunch is that it's a much more simple process. For example, this idea -- "you are not your thoughts" -- is simple but devastating. Like dropping a drop of soap in an oily filmy mess. I suppose your results may vary. But perhaps purification just is a constant returning to that. The project of making the mind clear is a failure from the outset. Better to root out the source for the impurity, which has to be relentless. IOW, staying with the I Am. And then, once consistent, hacking it to pieces.
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Post by laughter on Jul 16, 2015 15:40:30 GMT -5
What does "purify the mind" mean, really? If mind is thought and thinking, what is purifying it mean? It's not about the content of thought and thinking. It must be about the presence or absence of thinking/thought. So purify means just stop. "I am ___" entangles the subject with an object, and it sounds simple enough, doesn't it? Just don't identify with anything. Don't entangle being with form. My conditioning translates "impure" into dirty, profane and debased, and maybe there's a translation issue involved, because I don't think that there are any "pure" attachments to "I am". Pure here to me, means "clear". The way that it's often put is, see the false as false. What becomes clear is the sense of identity. It becomes clear in that that sense becomes transparent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 9:41:47 GMT -5
What does "purify the mind" mean, really? If mind is thought and thinking, what is purifying it mean? It's not about the content of thought and thinking. It must be about the presence or absence of thinking/thought. So purify means just stop. "I am ___" entangles the subject with an object, and it sounds simple enough, doesn't it? Just don't identify with anything. Don't entangle being with form. My conditioning translates "impure" into dirty, profane and debased, and maybe there's a translation issue involved, because I don't think that there are any "pure" attachments to "I am". Pure here to me, means "clear". The way that it's often put is, see the false as false. What becomes clear is the sense of identity. It becomes clear in that that sense becomes transparent. thanks for the nice and simple. appreciated.
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Post by laughter on Jul 18, 2015 9:19:13 GMT -5
"I am ___" entangles the subject with an object, and it sounds simple enough, doesn't it? Just don't identify with anything. Don't entangle being with form. My conditioning translates "impure" into dirty, profane and debased, and maybe there's a translation issue involved, because I don't think that there are any "pure" attachments to "I am". Pure here to me, means "clear". The way that it's often put is, see the false as false. What becomes clear is the sense of identity. It becomes clear in that that sense becomes transparent. thanks for the nice and simple. appreciated. My pleasure man.
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Post by enigma on Jul 20, 2015 9:51:22 GMT -5
What does "purify the mind" mean, really? If mind is thought and thinking, what is purifying it mean? It's not about the content of thought and thinking. It must be about the presence or absence of thinking/thought. So purify means just stop. Why do you say it's not about the content?
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