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Post by stardustpilgrim on May 6, 2014 12:22:47 GMT -5
I don't recall this subject coming up here, but I was wondering if anyone else gets actual pleasure from meditation or the various forms of interior practice discussed here? I don't really drink, but I have on occasion, enough to make a comparison. So it's like a high but is more subtle than an alcohol buzz. I presume the body is creating endorphins. Benefits, no hangover, no withdrawal, doesn't cost anything. sdp
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Post by Transcix on May 6, 2014 13:44:44 GMT -5
As Marshall McLuhan said of art, so to is life, it's ANYTHING...
...that you can get away with!
Necessity is the mother of invention, there is no other dictator. What to do with your freedom?..
OK I can't make the font size finally correct but you get the point
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Post by silver on May 6, 2014 13:47:59 GMT -5
I don't recall this subject coming up here, but I was wondering if anyone else gets actual pleasure from meditation or the various forms of interior practice discussed here? I don't really drink, but I have on occasion, enough to make a comparison. So it's like a high but is more subtle than an alcohol buzz. I presume the body is creating endorphins. Benefits, no hangover, no withdrawal, doesn't cost anything. sdp Maybe you could run down a list of things mentioned and discussed here that you think are up on the list?
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Post by laughter on May 6, 2014 15:53:57 GMT -5
I don't recall this subject coming up here, but I was wondering if anyone else gets actual pleasure from meditation or the various forms of interior practice discussed here? I don't really drink, but I have on occasion, enough to make a comparison. So it's like a high but is more subtle than an alcohol buzz. I presume the body is creating endorphins. Benefits, no hangover, no withdrawal, doesn't cost anything. sdp When I started it was motivated by "chasing the high" that I felt a few months prior, and yeah, the activity didn't disappoint. I'd guess at this juncture there's a new normal 'cause the differential in physical sensation that I used to feel isn't nearly as pronounced, but in periods of days or weeks where I don't sit there is a marked difference in overall experience that would include the frequency of "naturally noticing the present".
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Post by desertrat on May 8, 2014 9:16:56 GMT -5
If you do slow deep breathing that can give you a high feeling . An altered state of consciousness can like a high .
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Post by stardustpilgrim on May 8, 2014 15:47:48 GMT -5
As Marshall McLuhan said of art, so to is life, it's ANYTHING... ...that you can get away with!
Necessity is the mother of invention, there is no other dictator. What to do with your freedom?..
OK I can't make the font size finally correct but you get the point
Sorry....no...I didn't get your point........ sdp
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Post by silence on May 10, 2014 22:54:20 GMT -5
I don't recall this subject coming up here, but I was wondering if anyone else gets actual pleasure from meditation or the various forms of interior practice discussed here? I don't really drink, but I have on occasion, enough to make a comparison. So it's like a high but is more subtle than an alcohol buzz. I presume the body is creating endorphins. Benefits, no hangover, no withdrawal, doesn't cost anything. sdp It's an issue of contrast. You're constantly tense and in pain and then you relax. It looks like pleasure but it is nothing more than the return of a properly functioning body unimpeded by insanity, temporarily.
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Post by Transcix on May 11, 2014 18:07:27 GMT -5
If you want to chase a high then chase a high. Sure meditation can give you a high. What's important is achieving a modality of being that's (eternally) sustainable and not getting distracted from it by the lure of highs.. once you're operating within that modality of being then feel free to indulge as much as you'd like, although you obviously will so that's not saying much.
Do I want short-term gain and long-term pain, or short-term pain and long-term gain? And I'll add, in terms of short-term pain, challenge need be actually arduous rather than a stimulating battle only to the extent one fails to realize the right answer.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 1:56:11 GMT -5
As Marshall McLuhan said of art, so to is life, it's ANYTHING... ...that you can get away with!
Necessity is the mother of invention, there is no other dictator. What to do with your freedom?..
OK I can't make the font size finally correct but you get the point
Sorry....no...I didn't get your point........ sdp lol....me either...seems like an inside joke ;-)
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 2:02:22 GMT -5
If you want to chase a high then chase a high. Sure meditation can give you a high. What's important is achieving a modality of being that's (eternally) sustainable and not getting distracted from it by the lure of highs.. once you're operating within that modality of being then feel free to indulge as much as you'd like, although you obviously will so that's not saying much. Do I want short-term gain and long-term pain, or short-term pain and long-term gain? And I'll add, in terms of short-term pain, challenge need be actually arduous rather than a stimulating battle only to the extent one fails to realize the right answer. You okay buddy? You are kinda wandering. You are seeming to have the kind of psychological 'break' that occurs with world class chess players and mathematicians sometimes...wherein the mind stays for too long in a deep pattern of logic, of imagined possibilities of cause and effect, and imaginings of countless iterations of logical possibility. Take some time and be at ease my friend, manic logicality is still a kind of mania, and you are of little use to your fellow man if lost in the Maelstrom of Logician Mania, or rambling after getting too deeps into the cups.
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Post by Reefs on May 12, 2014 2:23:29 GMT -5
I don't recall this subject coming up here, but I was wondering if anyone else gets actual pleasure from meditation or the various forms of interior practice discussed here? I don't really drink, but I have on occasion, enough to make a comparison. So it's like a high but is more subtle than an alcohol buzz. I presume the body is creating endorphins. Benefits, no hangover,no withdrawal, doesn't cost anything. sdp Alcohol and meditation are just 2 different ways of lowering resistance.
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Post by Reefs on May 12, 2014 2:25:24 GMT -5
As Marshall McLuhan said of art, so to is life, it's ANYTHING... ...that you can get away with!
Necessity is the mother of invention, there is no other dictator. What to do with your freedom?..
OK I can't make the font size finally correct but you get the point
That question is an indicator that something has gone terribly wrong already.
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Post by Reefs on May 12, 2014 2:30:52 GMT -5
I don't recall this subject coming up here, but I was wondering if anyone else gets actual pleasure from meditation or the various forms of interior practice discussed here? I don't really drink, but I have on occasion, enough to make a comparison. So it's like a high but is more subtle than an alcohol buzz. I presume the body is creating endorphins. Benefits, no hangover, no withdrawal, doesn't cost anything. sdp It's an issue of contrast. You're constantly tense and in pain and then you relax. It looks like pleasure but it is nothing more than the return of a properly functioning body unimpeded by insanity, temporarily. Yes, the high is about relief.
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Post by Reefs on May 12, 2014 2:32:53 GMT -5
If you want to chase a high then chase a high. Sure meditation can give you a high. What's important is achieving a modality of being that's (eternally) sustainable and not getting distracted from it by the lure of highs.. once you're operating within that modality of being then feel free to indulge as much as you'd like, although you obviously will so that's not saying much. Do I want short-term gain and long-term pain, or short-term pain and long-term gain? And I'll add, in terms of short-term pain, challenge need be actually arduous rather than a stimulating battle only to the extent one fails to realize the right answer. Gain without pain is not an option?
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Post by Transcix on May 12, 2014 14:09:30 GMT -5
If life is anything that you can get away with, then it stands to reason that you should try to push the envelope.. don't refrain from indulgence because of some moral imperative you hold as opinion.. the line between indulgence and over-indulgence is one of the deepest truths.. the OP asked a question about feeling good, I'm saying it's not about feeling good, sure try to feel as good as you can all the time, but always of more fundamental importance is how you're feeling good and / or what you're feeling good about.. people tend to see how they 'feel' in a given situation and thereby discern how the situation fits into their system of value judgments, if it's a 'good' situation, a 'healthy' situation, an 'unhealthy' situation, etc.. then they get into another situation and see how they feel.. but basing your discernment of the character of the situation you're in based on how it makes you feel is a pivotal error.. what's important is the manner and mechanism by which your feeling changes from one thing to another, what it is not in the external situations but rather in your internal makeup which causes change in your perspective and what that change means not in terms of externalities but in terms of a self-referential context of internal experience.. you aren't xing adrift on a sea of change so it's imperative to fully discern how *you* change *yourself*..
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