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Post by laughter on Apr 17, 2014 23:31:17 GMT -5
The metaphor of the resurrection is probably not lost on many of the users here, if not most. Yeah yeah yeah I know, ain't like this isn't the gazilliondith and a half post saying exactly the same thing. If I could take a time masheen and meet one person in the past, I'd go and rap my knuckles on Constantine's forehead back in Nicea .. (** bonk bonk bonk **) (just like an empty goldfish bowl) " Hello! Anyone home??" .. .. ah, on second thought he probly knew exactly what he was doin'. "Ignorance of true nature" and "Knowledge of good and evil" point exactly the same. Mainstream Christianity has essentially been a 1662 year detour brought to us courtesy of literalism and literalists. Those of us who find meaning here know that Easter is a holiday that celebrates dying to death itself by dying before we die.
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Post by silver on Apr 3, 2015 19:20:25 GMT -5
The metaphor of the resurrection is probably not lost on many of the users here, if not most. Yeah yeah yeah I know, ain't like this isn't the gazilliondith and a half post saying exactly the same thing. If I could take a time masheen and meet one person in the past, I'd go and rap my knuckles on Constantine's forehead back in Nicea .. (** bonk bonk bonk **) (just like an empty goldfish bowl) " Hello! Anyone home??" .. .. ah, on second thought he probly knew exactly what he was doin'. "Ignorance of true nature" and "Knowledge of good and evil" point exactly the same. Mainstream Christianity has essentially been a 1662 year detour brought to us courtesy of literalism and literalists. Those of us who find meaning here know that Easter is a holiday that celebrates dying to death itself by dying before we die.
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Post by silver on Apr 3, 2015 19:21:28 GMT -5
well...soon [da bunny told me so]
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Post by laughter on Apr 3, 2015 21:27:42 GMT -5
My take on mainstream Christianity has softened quite a bit over this past year. Devotion is something that works for lots of people and if they live their whole lives always thinking of God as other than, separate and apart from them rather than what can be found by simply turning quiet and looking inward, well, then that's just perfect, exactly as it is. The metaphor still stands though, and in this day and age of widespread edumication and the endless dance of the intellect, with more and more peeps popping open like kernels of corn every year, it might be useful to someone somewhere who might not have thought of it ... but to anyone who has died before they died, it's soooooo obvious that they don't need any talk talk like here on this forum to see what's meant by it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 21:55:57 GMT -5
The metaphor of the resurrection is probably not lost on many of the users here, if not most. Yeah yeah yeah I know, ain't like this isn't the gazilliondith and a half post saying exactly the same thing. If I could take a time masheen and meet one person in the past, I'd go and rap my knuckles on Constantine's forehead back in Nicea .. (** bonk bonk bonk **) (just like an empty goldfish bowl) " Hello! Anyone home??" .. .. ah, on second thought he probly knew exactly what he was doin'. "Ignorance of true nature" and "Knowledge of good and evil" point exactly the same. Mainstream Christianity has essentially been a 1662 year detour brought to us courtesy of literalism and literalists. Those of us who find meaning here know that Easter is a holiday that celebrates dying to death itself by dying before we die. So what is resurrected? To me, dying before I die sounds like an absence and not a transcendence.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Apr 3, 2015 22:59:07 GMT -5
The metaphor of the resurrection is probably not lost on many of the users here, if not most. Yeah yeah yeah I know, ain't like this isn't the gazilliondith and a half post saying exactly the same thing. If I could take a time masheen and meet one person in the past, I'd go and rap my knuckles on Constantine's forehead back in Nicea .. (** bonk bonk bonk **) (just like an empty goldfish bowl) " Hello! Anyone home??" .. .. ah, on second thought he probly knew exactly what he was doin'. "Ignorance of true nature" and "Knowledge of good and evil" point exactly the same. Mainstream Christianity has essentially been a 1662 year detour brought to us courtesy of literalism and literalists. Those of us who find meaning here know that Easter is a holiday that celebrates dying to death itself by dying before we die. So what is resurrected? To me, dying before I die sounds like an absence and not a transcendence. Christians don't really realize they have somewhat a paradox in believing a literal resurrection. Even Biblical reposts describe the resurrected body of Jesus as being different from a normal physical body. Jesus could appear and disappear at will, that's something more than just physical resurrection. Now, of course, Christians know this, but disregard the paradox. I'm going to have to say that body isn't a physical body. Just a added note here. Many years ago I just happened to go to a Unitarian Church on Easter once. It was kind of funny. The Pastor stood up and said, more or less, Yea, folks, Easter is a peculiar day for us, as we don't believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus. The congregation laughed.
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Post by silver on Apr 3, 2015 23:06:00 GMT -5
The metaphor of the resurrection is probably not lost on many of the users here, if not most. Yeah yeah yeah I know, ain't like this isn't the gazilliondith and a half post saying exactly the same thing. If I could take a time masheen and meet one person in the past, I'd go and rap my knuckles on Constantine's forehead back in Nicea .. (** bonk bonk bonk **) (just like an empty goldfish bowl) " Hello! Anyone home??" .. .. ah, on second thought he probly knew exactly what he was doin'. "Ignorance of true nature" and "Knowledge of good and evil" point exactly the same. Mainstream Christianity has essentially been a 1662 year detour brought to us courtesy of literalism and literalists. Those of us who find meaning here know that Easter is a holiday that celebrates dying to death itself by dying before we die. So what is resurrected? To me, dying before I die sounds like an absence and not a transcendence. If I may - For me, it's easy to see that transcendence is what's meant by dying to death -- perhaps it means dying to our ignorance? I'm not so sure anything is resurrected. That absence talk alway throws me for a loop so I can't address that.
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Post by laughter on Apr 3, 2015 23:19:29 GMT -5
The metaphor of the resurrection is probably not lost on many of the users here, if not most. Yeah yeah yeah I know, ain't like this isn't the gazilliondith and a half post saying exactly the same thing. If I could take a time masheen and meet one person in the past, I'd go and rap my knuckles on Constantine's forehead back in Nicea .. (** bonk bonk bonk **) (just like an empty goldfish bowl) " Hello! Anyone home??" .. .. ah, on second thought he probly knew exactly what he was doin'. "Ignorance of true nature" and "Knowledge of good and evil" point exactly the same. Mainstream Christianity has essentially been a 1662 year detour brought to us courtesy of literalism and literalists. Those of us who find meaning here know that Easter is a holiday that celebrates dying to death itself by dying before we die. So what is resurrected? To me, dying before I die sounds like an absence and not a transcendence. Nothing is resurrected. It's a metaphor. No go chop me some wood and carry me some water out to my transcendent gazebo while I sip my margarita, 'k?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 1:40:56 GMT -5
So what is resurrected? To me, dying before I die sounds like an absence and not a transcendence. Nothing is resurrected. It's a metaphor. No go chop me some wood and carry me some water out to my transcendent gazebo while I sip my margarita, 'k? What evidence back that up your claim?
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Post by laughter on Apr 4, 2015 2:36:51 GMT -5
Nothing is resurrected. It's a metaphor. No go chop me some wood and carry me some water out to my transcendent gazebo while I sip my margarita, 'k? What evidence back that up your claim? Your question embodies the logical fallacy of demanding proof of the negative. Can you prove that the resurrection literally happened?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 3:17:33 GMT -5
What evidence back that up your claim? Your question embodies the logical fallacy of demanding proof of the negative. Can you prove that the resurrection literally happened? What about the writing the Gospel? what about the writing paul? What about the writing of historian like Josephus and Tacitus?
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Post by laughter on Apr 4, 2015 3:31:50 GMT -5
Your question embodies the logical fallacy of demanding proof of the negative. Can you prove that the resurrection literally happened? What about the writing the Gospel? what about the writing paul? What about the writing of historian like Josephus and Tacitus? To the faithfully devoted who love God these require no proof. To anyone looking to prove something, they offer only hearsay.
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Post by laughter on Apr 4, 2015 3:40:46 GMT -5
I've posted this twice in the past few weeks, each time buried deep in MT.
If you want to feel the resurrection, then take a deep breath, clear your mind, and let your body catch the emotions of this song.
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Post by laughter on Apr 4, 2015 4:18:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 5:08:38 GMT -5
What about the writing the Gospel? what about the writing paul? What about the writing of historian like Josephus and Tacitus? To the faithfully devoted who love God these require no proof. To anyone looking to prove something, they offer only hearsay. you are talking something irrelevant Laughter, You asked me the proof, I have shown you the writing of those people who lived in the first century and also the contemporary and I asked you how do you know they are wrong? Or what does the proof you have to disprove about all those writers?
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