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Post by laughter on Oct 15, 2013 1:03:24 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Do not be afraid to let go of attachments to values like 'righteousness and beauty', as those judgments create the contrasting balance of 'unrighteous and ugly', those contrasts give the 'judge' labels to attach to those feared and found unrighteous.. Be well.. Full disclosure: This was originally posted in the "Daily Niz (NO DISCUSSION) thread, and moved by the new Sheriff.. Be well.. Hey! I'm just a deputy and that's why I bumped it so's it wouldn't get buried! If it's any consolation, I can't deny that your caveat about judgements is a wise one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 22:14:23 GMT -5
(From Chapter 93 of "I AM THAT", "Man is Not the Doer") Niz: As long as there is the body and the sense of identity with the body, frustration is inevitable. Only when you know yourself as entirely alien to and different from the body will you find respite from the mixture of fear and craving inseparable from the "I am the body" idea. Merely assuaging fears and satisfying desires will not remove this sense of emptiness you are trying to escape from; only self-knowledge can help you. By 'self-knowledge' I mean full knowledge of what you are not. Such knowledge is attainable and final, but to the discovery of what you are, there can be no end. The more you discover, the more there remains to discover. When my body and my ego and my dreams are gone I will know that I will last forever.
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Post by laughter on Oct 19, 2013 22:38:22 GMT -5
bump
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Post by silver on Nov 4, 2013 20:03:05 GMT -5
I was just journaling my dream from last night and this seems quite the synchronicity for me.
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 6, 2014 8:33:41 GMT -5
"You observe the heart feeling, the mind thinking, the body acting; the very act of perceiving shows that you are not what you perceive."
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 28, 2014 16:36:10 GMT -5
"What is this state before this knowledge ‘I am’ came upon me? When the knowledge ‘I am’ came, the one who is satisfied with that will reach the state where he considers himself God and ‘Brahman’. But he does not go beyond it or prior to it. In the ultimate state lies the prior state; that is, the state before this knowledge ‘I am’ ever dawned on me – the highest state, the best state, the original state."
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 29, 2014 16:39:46 GMT -5
"My Guru told me – ‘Trust me. I tell you, you are divine. Take it as the absolute truth. Your joy is divine; your suffering is divine too. All comes from God. Remember it always. You are God, your will alone is done.’ I did believe him and soon realized how wonderfully true and accurate were his words. I did not condition my mind by thinking: ‘I am God, I am wonderful, I am beyond.’ I simply followed his instruction, which was to focus the mind on pure being, ‘I am’ and stay in it. I used to sit for hours together, with nothing but the ‘I am’ in my mind and soon peace and joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all disappeared - myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence"
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Post by silver on Jul 29, 2014 17:45:42 GMT -5
I think I've been selfish like that off and on in my life, but I think I've lost some (most? all?) of that selfishness. Does anybody else know that feeling?
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Post by enigma on Jul 29, 2014 20:18:39 GMT -5
"My Guru told me – ‘Trust me. I tell you, you are divine. Take it as the absolute truth. Your joy is divine; your suffering is divine too. All comes from God. Remember it always. You are God, your will alone is done.’ I did believe him and soon realized how wonderfully true and accurate were his words. I did not condition my mind by thinking: ‘I am God, I am wonderful, I am beyond.’ I simply followed his instruction, which was to focus the mind on pure being, ‘I am’ and stay in it. I used to sit for hours together, with nothing but the ‘I am’ in my mind and soon peace and joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all disappeared - myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence" Sounds like he didn't hafta pull his ax out even once.
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Post by laughter on Jul 29, 2014 20:34:34 GMT -5
I think I've been selfish like that off and on in my life, but I think I've lost some (most? all?) of that selfishness. Does anybody else know that feeling? Hey! Did you get a copy of the book? My guess is that everyone who can read can relate to what he means by selfishness. Not everyone covets all the time and folks can go through stages and cycles including periods of being generous and altruistic. But what Niz is referring to by "knows that he is neither body nor mind" isn't something gradual or partial.
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Post by silver on Jul 29, 2014 21:01:40 GMT -5
I think I've been selfish like that off and on in my life, but I think I've lost some (most? all?) of that selfishness. Does anybody else know that feeling? Hey! Did you get a copy of the book? My guess is that everyone who can read can relate to what he means by selfishness. Not everyone covets all the time and folks can go through stages and cycles including periods of being generous and altruistic. But what Niz is referring to by "knows that he is neither body nor mind" isn't something gradual or partial. Ha ha, yeah, I'm hep, hip or x. I do know what you mean, and I wondered - especially after what I just went through, because I know there are changes in my outlook on Life. I can't help but wonder how accurate it is to say that some (according to much of the conversations I've witnessed here, it's rarer than hen's teeth) for peeps to have that complete transformation thingy.
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 29, 2014 21:16:13 GMT -5
"My Guru told me – ‘Trust me. I tell you, you are divine. Take it as the absolute truth. Your joy is divine; your suffering is divine too. All comes from God. Remember it always. You are God, your will alone is done.’ I did believe him and soon realized how wonderfully true and accurate were his words. I did not condition my mind by thinking: ‘I am God, I am wonderful, I am beyond.’ I simply followed his instruction, which was to focus the mind on pure being, ‘I am’ and stay in it. I used to sit for hours together, with nothing but the ‘I am’ in my mind and soon peace and joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all disappeared - myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence" Sounds like he didn't hafta pull his ax out even once. Ah, but he IS a rascal and he goes further about it here: "If only you go deep into the fact of being and discover the vastness and the glory, to which the ‘I am’ is the door, and cross the door and go beyond, your life will be full of happiness and light. Believe me; the effort needed is as nothing when compared with the discoveries arrived at." and here: "The door that locks you in is also the door that lets you out. The ‘I am’ is the door. Stay at it until it opens." and here: "The ‘I am’ is in the world but it is the key which can open the door out of the world."
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Post by enigma on Jul 30, 2014 0:25:45 GMT -5
Sounds like he didn't hafta pull his ax out even once. Ah, but he IS a rascal and he goes further about it here: "If only you go deep into the fact of being and discover the vastness and the glory, to which the ‘I am’ is the door, and cross the door and go beyond, your life will be full of happiness and light. Believe me; the effort needed is as nothing when compared with the discoveries arrived at." and here: "The door that locks you in is also the door that lets you out. The ‘I am’ is the door. Stay at it until it opens." and here: "The ‘I am’ is in the world but it is the key which can open the door out of the world." Well, there he goes with "the I am" again, and I can't follow him through that imaginary door.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 13:49:00 GMT -5
Sounds like he didn't hafta pull his ax out even once. Ah, but he IS a rascal and he goes further about it here: "If only you go deep into the fact of being and discover the vastness and the glory, to which the ‘I am’ is the door, and cross the door and go beyond, your life will be full of happiness and light. Believe me; the effort needed is as nothing when compared with the discoveries arrived at." and here: "The door that locks you in is also the door that lets you out. The ‘I am’ is the door. Stay at it until it opens." and here: "The ‘I am’ is in the world but it is the key which can open the door out of the world." To call a man that did not write in English a rascal, is a bit narrow-minded. Acknowledge that all these writings have been translated out of Niz's native language, and we would probably, and almost certainly lose this objectification of the 'I am'.
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Post by justlikeyou on Jul 30, 2014 14:00:04 GMT -5
Ah, but he IS a rascal and he goes further about it here: "If only you go deep into the fact of being and discover the vastness and the glory, to which the ‘I am’ is the door, and cross the door and go beyond, your life will be full of happiness and light. Believe me; the effort needed is as nothing when compared with the discoveries arrived at." and here: "The door that locks you in is also the door that lets you out. The ‘I am’ is the door. Stay at it until it opens." and here: "The ‘I am’ is in the world but it is the key which can open the door out of the world." To call a man that did not write in English a rascal, is a bit narrow-minded. Acknowledge that all these writings have been translated out of Niz's native language, and we would probably, and almost certainly lose this objectification of the 'I am'. It was meant affectionately and in acknowledgement that his seeming contradictions are anything but.
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