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Nov 28, 2012 3:31:34 GMT -5
Post by arisha on Nov 28, 2012 3:31:34 GMT -5
This has been known to take my breath away... A friend (yoga teacher) recorded her own version of the Gayatri Mantra, and gifted us with it a few years ago. She sings the mantra, and plays all of the instruments in the rendition. Think I'll pop the disc in the player, and put the headphones on. I think you posted it as an example of something repetitive, but valuable, as it is a mantra. Yes, mantras are like prayers, they may have their effect. Enlightenment may happen... There is such a prayer/mantra in Russian for the purpose of getting enlightenment: Господи, помилуй мя, грешного. I like this Indian mantra: Om Gam Ganapatayeh Namaha. I think for the mantras to take their effect one is supposed to be very serious about them, and follow the tradition precisely.
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Nov 28, 2012 3:54:53 GMT -5
Post by arisha on Nov 28, 2012 3:54:53 GMT -5
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Nov 28, 2012 4:03:23 GMT -5
Post by arisha on Nov 28, 2012 4:03:23 GMT -5
When I was in Egypt many wonders happened to me. I remember when I was choosing a glass container for perfume MrG said to me I should buy a container which was made as an elephant. So I bought it. I didn't know about the Ganesha mantra at that time. It turned out to be the first mantra I listened to.
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Nov 28, 2012 4:51:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 4:51:16 GMT -5
I think you posted it as an example of something repetitive, but valuable, as it is a mantra. Yes, mantras are like prayers, they may have their effect. Enlightenment may happen... There is such a prayer/mantra in Russian for the purpose of getting enlightenment: Господи, помилуй мя, грешного. I like this Indian mantra: Om Gam Ganapatayeh Namaha. I think for the mantras to take their effect one is supposed to be very serious about them, and follow the tradition precisely. I've always liked the way words in Russian appear when I run across them on a page in a book, or in a message board post. There is just something very ancient about it when it happens... In a way, mantras and music are very, very similar. They are inspired. In a sense, otherwordly. Rhythmic movements of silent spaces punctuated with energetic fullness. Sometimes when meditating I catch myself singing the mantra The Indian mantra you posted shook me to my core when I read it. I cannot reveal why, but something tells me you've seen why...
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Nov 28, 2012 5:02:52 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 5:02:52 GMT -5
This has been known to take my breath away... A friend (yoga teacher) recorded her own version of the Gayatri Mantra, and gifted us with it a few years ago. She sings the mantra, and plays all of the instruments in the rendition. Think I'll pop the disc in the player, and put the headphones on. What sort of Being do you find when you meditate on it? You want me to kiss and tell? ;D
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Nov 28, 2012 13:43:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 13:43:18 GMT -5
I spent part of the morning contemplating what's been shared on this thread, and bumped into stillness along the way. If all of the steps of surrender are present, and how could they not be with the ocean, too, within the drop, then a seductive Monet or tantalizing Pollack, an intricate Mozart or raucous Hendrix, an contemplative Rumi or exhilarated Whitman will evoke love because the artist is simply there in all Its naked humanity. We can be transformed by what we see, feel, smell, taste, or hear in an instant.
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Nov 28, 2012 15:38:21 GMT -5
Post by eventhis on Nov 28, 2012 15:38:21 GMT -5
Hmm...so I defintley like all of the classical music, chanting etc. But the rant somewhat displeased me simply because it seemed like it was written from a pretty SELF richeous standpoint. Classical music isn't 'better' then any other music. Once it is seen as 'better'or 'worse' than other music, it is no longer what it was. Also, while I do agree with most of what was said in the rant, I don't think listening to classical music some how makes you some super human above worldly desires like money, women, etc. While a lot of music does glorify the 'smoke weed, get money, MOB' type stuff, I don't think that in of itself is 'bad.' And I don't think if you listen to Wiz Khalifa of Sublime you'll instanly become a drug addict and start disrespecting women.
Man, if some people listened to OFWGKTA on here there would be some problems! haha. Experience everything! Listening to classical music dosen't make you better and listening to Tyler the Creator dosen't make you worse.
If what 'listens' to the 'music' sees it as better of worse than other music or even that what it's listening to 'is' music, than it seems pretty apparent as to what is listening to the music, and why! haha
Moonlight Sonata is killer tho. I defintely mean know offense to anyone.
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Nov 28, 2012 15:57:51 GMT -5
Post by silver on Nov 28, 2012 15:57:51 GMT -5
Some great points in there, eventhis - I wholeheartedly agree.
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Nov 29, 2012 1:48:02 GMT -5
Post by arisha on Nov 29, 2012 1:48:02 GMT -5
Well, you are not right, classical music won't stop being what it is if it is seen as a better or a worse music. Doesn't matter how it is called it always is classical music. To say that something (in our case - music) cannot be worse or better is the same as to say that doing bad things doesn't mean doing something bad, because there is no good and bad. It's so ridiculous that is not worse even talking about. Murdering, torturing, hurting others IS bad. So, there is good and bad. And there is good and not so good, cheaper music. In the same way as there are intelligent and not intelligent people, good and not good, cheap, and not cheap. No, classical music doesn't make supermen, it is far from that. But it helps understand what is cheap and not cheap, I would say. It helps see things, because it helps one be able to recognize the depth of Being. When vulgarization is considered to be something good and normal, - it is cheap. There is no vulgarization in classical music, - that's why it elevates the soul, and develops the Heart. In higher realms no vulgarization is possible, - and Mind is also developed in those higher realms where classical music takes us to. Sorry for my English, I hope you can understand what I want to say.
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Nov 29, 2012 1:52:21 GMT -5
Post by mamza on Nov 29, 2012 1:52:21 GMT -5
The Funk. It's allabout The Funk.
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Nov 29, 2012 2:15:32 GMT -5
Post by laughter on Nov 29, 2012 2:15:32 GMT -5
All music is good if one likes it. But the repetitive rhythmical structure cannot connect to the Eneffable which is unpredictable. Western pop music of all genres is so much predictable, and the words of songs create more concentration on the mind. The Eastern music is not so much predictable. Or Celtic music.. It's bewitching. This is the Sufi music, - of course it's modern interpretation, but still.. Celtic music:
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Nov 29, 2012 2:23:34 GMT -5
Post by laughter on Nov 29, 2012 2:23:34 GMT -5
The Funk. It's allabout The Funk. yeh-ayy-ah ... all that poppin' and slinkin' ... nice
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Nov 29, 2012 2:54:13 GMT -5
Post by arisha on Nov 29, 2012 2:54:13 GMT -5
When vulgar things are so much dominating in mind, it will go down, higher realms become inaccessible to it. Anyone chooses what they choose, though.
I have nothing against the light music, - as a background - when doing nothing, just sitting and twiddling one's thumbs (if this is the right idiom for that kind of an action). Yes, some humor in this music of the Funk. What else? Of course, it's your and only your choice.
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Nov 29, 2012 6:58:40 GMT -5
Post by arisha on Nov 29, 2012 6:58:40 GMT -5
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Nov 29, 2012 20:16:29 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2012 20:16:29 GMT -5
Ravi Shankar...
I first ran across this performance on the Learning Channel one evening about 20 years ago. It was a documentary about the 1967 Montery Pop Festival, and after performances by Joplin, The Who, Hendrix, Grateful Dead and a few others, the documentary focused on Shankar's performance. I realized within a few short minutes that I was in the presence of pure genius. His is a melding of mind, body, and spirit, and I'm telling ya', it was more than clear the trinity was fully engaged in this performance. He's really throwing down. A true master. Fully in the moment.
I was surprised to read that he felt his expression is classical. A description of that afternoon below...
Montery Pop Festival- 1967
"Sunday afternoon was Shankar, and one felt a return to peace. And yet there was an excitement in his purity, as well as in his face and body, and that of the tabla player whose face matched Chaplin’s in its expressive range. For three hours they played music, and after the first strangeness, it was not Indian music, but music, a particular realization of what music could be. It was all brilliant, but in a long solo from the 16th century Shankar had the whole audience, including all the musicians at the Festival, rapt. Before he played, he spoke briefly. The work, he said, was a very spiritual one and he asked that no pictures be taken (the paparazzi lay down like lambs). He thanked everyone for not smoking, and said with feeling, “I love all of you, and how grateful I am for your love of me. What am I doing at a pop festival when my music is classical? I knew I’d be meeting you all at one place, you to whom music means so much. This is not pop but I am glad it is popular.” With that he began the long melancholic piece. To all appearances he had 7,000 people with him, and when he finished, he stood, bowed with his hands clasped to his forehead, and then, smiling, threw back to the crowd the flowers that had been showered on him." - Michael Lydon
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