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Post by glimmer on Oct 2, 2012 0:25:30 GMT -5
Computer, Define Enigtrusion: You have experienced an Enigtrusion when Every now and again Your world is graced by the intrusion of that one whose face is masked in elocution that famed man we call Enigma. -------------------- Suck-o-meter ranks this at -7 atmospheres. I haven't met a man called Enigma. Famous or not. Now that must be an enigma.
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Post by silver on Oct 2, 2012 0:49:21 GMT -5
I really suck at anagrams. I should really shine (!) Sheesh! I rain loudly. Beeoodeeefull.
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Post by silver on Oct 2, 2012 11:08:20 GMT -5
I know your story, silver. And I get the impression that you are unable to change your story even though you don't like that story at all. Maybe you are thinking that a bad story is better than no story? If you're genuinely interested in regaining your 'honor' you could explain what you meant by this. I mean you're the one who laid the card down. Last night, I viewed your words as insensitive - but I'm a morning person and in the light of a new day (if there is such a thing), I see the potential for you helping me out here with my 'story' and just maybe getting a better grip on the m.o. of those around here like yourself who seem to have it 'better' than those who don't see things like you do. When I wrote that poem, I was reliving all the times the sorrow took me by a sudden and very unpleasant surprise. Maybe you have a potential answer to that dilemma?
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 2, 2012 12:46:55 GMT -5
I know your story, silver. And I get the impression that you are unable to change your story even though you don't like that story at all. Maybe you are thinking that a bad story is better than no story? If you're genuinely interested in regaining your 'honor' you could explain what you meant by this. I mean you're the one who laid the card down. Last night, I viewed your words as insensitive - but I'm a morning person and in the light of a new day (if there is such a thing), I see the potential for you helping me out here with my 'story' and just maybe getting a better grip on the m.o. of those around here like yourself who seem to have it 'better' than those who don't see things like you do. When I wrote that poem, I was reliving all the times the sorrow took me by a sudden and very unpleasant surprise. Maybe you have a potential answer to that dilemma? It's interesting that you waited so long to respond to Reefs about this. Before the path: I cuss, I scream I fight in my dreams I work, I labor I hate on my neighbor On the path: This loves, This hugs This is one with the bugs This enjoys this, This enjoys that This shows off a new welcome mat After the path: Don't know, Don't care Bird!!!
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Post by silver on Oct 2, 2012 13:02:43 GMT -5
If you're genuinely interested in regaining your 'honor' you could explain what you meant by this. I mean you're the one who laid the card down. Last night, I viewed your words as insensitive - but I'm a morning person and in the light of a new day (if there is such a thing), I see the potential for you helping me out here with my 'story' and just maybe getting a better grip on the m.o. of those around here like yourself who seem to have it 'better' than those who don't see things like you do. When I wrote that poem, I was reliving all the times the sorrow took me by a sudden and very unpleasant surprise. Maybe you have a potential answer to that dilemma? It's interesting that you waited so long to respond to Reefs about this. Before the path: I cuss, I scream I fight in my dreams I work, I labor I hate on my neighbor On the path: This loves, This hugs This is one with the bugs This enjoys this, This enjoys that This shows off a new welcome mat After the path: Don't know, Don't care Bird!!! That's because it hurt - I was bewildered by his post because I'm still finding my way to this opening onto the beautiful meadow - I guess. Sigh. I thought I explained myself pretty darned good, ohc so I'll refrain from repeating myself. It's a new g.d. day. Wake youself up! P.s. Just askin' - have you lost a child or a person you love yet? p.p.s. I like your bad poem btw~*
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Post by topology on Oct 2, 2012 19:16:19 GMT -5
It's interesting that you waited so long to respond to Reefs about this. Before the path: I cuss, I scream I fight in my dreams I work, I labor I hate on my neighbor On the path: This loves, This hugs This is one with the bugs This enjoys this, This enjoys that This shows off a new welcome mat After the path: Don't know, Don't care Bird!!! That's because it hurt - I was bewildered by his post because I'm still finding my way to this opening onto the beautiful meadow - I guess. Sigh. I thought I explained myself pretty darned good, ohc so I'll refrain from repeating myself. It's a new g.d. day. Wake youself up! P.s. Just askin' - have you lost a child or a person you love yet? p.p.s. I like your bad poem btw~* I know this might sound trite, and we like to say that there's no way of describing or putting bounds on the "enlightened" state... But with respect to how we define ourselves, the enlightened state is as if we've lived for trillions of years. It is the evolution of our self-identity after living for trillions of years is what we're getting at. Your children have come and gone. Their children have come and gone. Your 100000th generation of grandchildren have come and gone. Epochs of history have come and gone. Armageddon has come and gone thousands of times over. How would you be defining yourself a thousand years from now? Would you still hold the loss of your son near and dear to you, a thousand years from now, a million years from now? Or would you let that memory fade away? That is what is meant by having no story to tell. The events of the past are so far away that they have no impact on the present and how we define ourselves in the present. Saying this right after you post a poem about your grief comes across as insensitive, callous, and possibly being an a$$hat, but talking about this subject with you can be difficult at times because we can feel the pain you feel. We talk about a lot on this forum about unnecessary suffering. None of us are you. None of us have had the emotional bond you've had with your son. We cannot sit in judgment of you in your grief, but we can ask you if you might be prolonging your suffering and not wanting to move forward from the events. Maybe this isn't what Reefs was going for and now I'm the a$$hat, *puts on a$$hat and goes to sit in a corner*
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Post by silver on Oct 2, 2012 19:48:26 GMT -5
Hey Top. There are a variety of ways to look at this. Even though I've spent a lot of time here, I'm not one of you. Or am i? I'm not knowing yet if I'm a wannabe or a not-sureiwannabe. All I know is I'm definitely looking n searching here. Maybe this isn't the place for women. I get fr*king emotional just saying that last sentence. Cripe - grumblegrumble. Emotionally a basket case, just like most females. Yeah, I realize I'm wallowing, but my opening poem was, well what it was. I mean, you guys go out into this big wide world and meet all kinds of folks, a lot of 'em just like me - I don't imagine a lot of them are visiting places on line like this or searching for 'something different' like me. I'm in the midst of this adventure. Some of the stuff I get - I'm not so sure I'm going to end up buying it hook-line and sinker. There may be some things I take away from this belief system, for lack of a better term. Because it's mostly guys, the thought that crossed my mind is maybe it's more taylored to guys' 'needs' or something. I don't know. Maybe it's not going to end up all that suitable for me. I don't know yet. So, I'm not sure I want to be fully indoctrinated / baptized. Bottom line for this thread is I'll wallow until I find something 'better'. ;D
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 2, 2012 20:17:16 GMT -5
That's because it hurt - I was bewildered by his post because I'm still finding my way to this opening onto the beautiful meadow - I guess. Sigh. I thought I explained myself pretty darned good, ohc so I'll refrain from repeating myself. It's a new g.d. day. Wake youself up! P.s. Just askin' - have you lost a child or a person you love yet? p.p.s. I like your bad poem btw~* If an abortion (with an ex-girlfriend) counts for a child, then yes. If a loved one includes grandparents, then yes. If a loved one includes a childhood friend then yes. If not, then nope. The wife, parents, and siblings are all still kicking. His comments may never open to a meadow for ya. Who cares? The more you chew on them, the more life they are given in the now....AKA the meadow. Some things just suck. Like his comments for you. It's okay. Breathe in and out. Open your eyes. Look outside the window. See any of his comments out there? ahhhhhhhhh. That's nice...... p.s. thanks, it was the worst I could do at that moment. Stick around though, cause I'm sure I'll have some "better" crap flow out of my mind.......oops, there it goes again.
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Post by Reefs on Oct 2, 2012 20:18:44 GMT -5
If you're genuinely interested in regaining your 'honor' you could explain what you meant by this. I mean you're the one who laid the card down. Sorry, but I don't play identity poker. I just happen to sit at the poker table watching the play from time to time, and drop a comment here and there, that's all. So I have no use for that honor thingy. ;D Well, I guess that hit home then. FYI, I was actually extra-extra-sensitive. I just think that giving you the special treatment society demands for those like you and to what you are obviously used to (even here on the forum) is not in your favor in the long run. I'm not anti-grief or anything. I just think it's not necessary to turn grief into an art. It's the same kind of art Midnight is practicing, which is, as Silence noted, a very cunning way of playing identity poker. There's something wrong with your story of loss as you might have noticed. If you would see feelings as mere indicators of what you are doing with your focus, then things would get into perspective quickly. I don't feel responsible for the way you feel and actually never can be responsible for the way you feel because the way you feel is the direct result of what you are doing with your focus, over which I have no control whatsoever. So don't blame me for hurting your feelings. It just shows there's something askew with your point of view. The common - but false - logic is: I felt quite good, but then I read your post and it made me feel upset. So your post is the cause of my hurt feelings. If you would apologize and rephrase everything then I can feel good again. The correct logic is: I'm not really feeling as good as I might think, your post made me upset, that shows that there's something wrong with my point of view. Lets see what it is.
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Post by quinn on Oct 2, 2012 20:20:27 GMT -5
Hang in there, Silver. It might not come across as empathetic, but there really is a deep compassion here for what you're going through. And by here, I mean me and I mean the forum.
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 2, 2012 20:24:12 GMT -5
Hey Top. There are a variety of ways to look at this. Even though I've spent a lot of time here, I'm not one of you. Or am i? I'm not knowing yet if I'm a wannabe or a not-sureiwannabe. All I know is I'm definitely looking n searching here. Maybe this isn't the place for women. I get fr*king emotional just saying that last sentence. Cripe - grumblegrumble. Emotionally a basket case, just like most females. Yeah, I realize I'm wallowing, but my opening poem was, well what it was. I mean, you guys go out into this big wide world and meet all kinds of folks, a lot of 'em just like me - I don't imagine a lot of them are visiting places on line like this or searching for 'something different' like me. I'm in the midst of this adventure. Some of the stuff I get - I'm not so sure I'm going to end up buying it hook-line and sinker. There may be some things I take away from this belief system, for lack of a better term. Because it's mostly guys, the thought that crossed my mind is maybe it's more taylored to guys' 'needs' or something. I don't know. Maybe it's not going to end up all that suitable for me. I don't know yet. So, I'm not sure I want to be fully indoctrinated / baptized. Bottom line for this thread is I'll wallow until I find something 'better'. ;D Wallow away. Share as long as you want to and as much as you see fit to share. That's what's awesome about THIS, EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED!!!! Just because this forum is normally a bunch of male egos trying to out mind each other, doesn't mean there isn't a place for some emotions.
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 2, 2012 20:32:37 GMT -5
I just think that giving you the special treatment society demands for those like you and to what you are obviously used to (even here on the forum) is not in your favor in the long run. HAHAHA!! "Those like you". HAHAHA!! "Not in your favor in the long run". HAHAHA! Seriously you need to be a non-duality comedian with lines like those.
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Post by laughter on Oct 2, 2012 20:36:09 GMT -5
Silver,
It might seem like some of the stuff you read is urging you to forget. On face value, it can certainly sound like it.
In reading you between the lines I think I see a glint of your perception that this stuff shouldn't be taken at face value.
If you feel pain and sorrow, feel it, be it. Go all the way into it instead of covering it up or trying to outrun it ... in the context of your story, that's what Tolle really means by being present. Appologies if this is already a cliche for you ...
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(topo' you had me on the floor man!)
words for the sake of words squeezed out like birds through the nostrils of computer nerds who code answers to questions ... questions that are retarded like what is the meaning of Enigtrusion.
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Post by enigma on Oct 2, 2012 20:38:29 GMT -5
Hang in there, Silver. It might not come across as empathetic, but there really is a deep compassion here for what you're going through. And by here, I mean me and I mean the forum. *Splashes gasoline around and flicks lighter* Good Grief Grief is a sham A trickster Demand to have a look up the sleeves And behind the back. A thought in the mind A whisper on the wind Retention on the retina An echo from the hillside Can the absence of something bring sadness? Well.....yes. The heart clings to loss As the morning dew Clings to a blade of grass Until the sun shines And it fades into mist Relish your grief Wallow in it For as long as you choose It is only the dark side Of joy.
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Post by silver on Oct 2, 2012 20:40:33 GMT -5
I just think that giving you the special treatment society demands for those like you and to what you are obviously used to (even here on the forum) is not in your favor in the long run. HAHAHA!! "Those like you". HAHAHA!! "Not in your favor in the long run". HAHAHA! Seriously you need to be a non-duality comedian with lines like those. I'm laughing - but I'm puzzled. It feels like Reefs is the only one 'agin' me. What - is - he - talking- about?
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