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Post by acewall on Oct 17, 2011 20:39:45 GMT -5
just observe, preferably in an inward observing. Where is 'inward?' Belly, skull, or thoughts? Mind creates barriers, walls, skins and boundaries, that serve to divide us all apart from each-other, where as, there was never anything at all like that before mind.
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Post by acewall on Oct 17, 2011 20:47:05 GMT -5
yes, only 'I' has 'My Problem', from whense the question arises, oblivious to an already complete REALITY.
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Post by relinquish on Oct 17, 2011 21:28:00 GMT -5
What are we, prior to all knowledge?
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Post by enigma on Oct 17, 2011 22:28:59 GMT -5
What are we, prior to all knowledge? Lemme know when the question collapses into a little greasy spot. ;D
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Post by acewall on Oct 17, 2011 23:11:12 GMT -5
What are we, prior to all knowledge? awareness is a word with 9 letters
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Post by acewall on Oct 17, 2011 23:11:49 GMT -5
I would describe inward observing as observing the very fact that we exist, independant of any of our attributes, and the very fact that we are aware that we exist. It's very difficult to put it in a way that everyone will understand, but give it a go true You did very well here Stillness...very well indeed...your "Skillful Means" are coming along nicely...
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Post by acewall on Oct 17, 2011 23:13:04 GMT -5
What are we, prior to all knowledge? Lemme know when the question collapses into a little greasy spot. ;D lol
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Post by ivory on Oct 18, 2011 11:14:42 GMT -5
This may be difficult to understand, but both 'careing' and 'not careing' are states of mind. 'Enlightenment' is completely beyond both of them. It is a feeling of infinite completeness, freedom and peace. Both 'careing' and 'not careing' may or may not happening upon that changeless feeling. Niether have any lasting effect. I'm down with that. What I don't think has been mentioned is the way in which realization 'informs' mind. The goal is not to do away with states of mind or feeling or even ego, but to reveal it all for what it is. There isn't actually a problem with 'what it is'. What do you mean?
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Post by enigma on Oct 18, 2011 13:33:41 GMT -5
I'm down with that. What I don't think has been mentioned is the way in which realization 'informs' mind. The goal is not to do away with states of mind or feeling or even ego, but to reveal it all for what it is. There isn't actually a problem with 'what it is'. What do you mean? I just mean that appearances appear and stuff happens. The problem is not in what appears or happens but in our interpretation of it. Even if our interpretation is seen to be ultimately false, which is mind being informed by the realization, the interpretation can still have utility and can still be talked about as being true in a limited context. The interpretation is no longer a problem as it is no longer believed to be ultimately true, and so has no 'stickiness'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 14:01:48 GMT -5
how can a little greasy spot be sticky? staininess?
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Post by enigma on Oct 18, 2011 14:04:59 GMT -5
how can a little greasy spot be sticky? staininess? That's it. A little slippery, maybe, but not sticky. ;D
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Post by acewall on Oct 18, 2011 17:14:42 GMT -5
What are we, prior to all knowledge? yes
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Post by etolle on Jan 3, 2018 18:48:22 GMT -5
This may be difficult to understand, but both 'careing' and 'not careing' are states of mind. 'Enlightenment' is completely beyond both of them. It is a feeling of infinite completeness, freedom and peace. Both 'careing' and 'not careing' may or may not happening upon that changeless feeling. Niether have any lasting effect. I'm down with that. What I don't think has been mentioned is the way in which realization 'informs' mind. The goal is not to do away with states of mind or feeling or even ego, but to reveal it all for what it is. There isn't actually a problem with 'what it is'. and what it is is all in our head?
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Post by zendancer on Jan 3, 2018 19:16:04 GMT -5
I'm down with that. What I don't think has been mentioned is the way in which realization 'informs' mind. The goal is not to do away with states of mind or feeling or even ego, but to reveal it all for what it is. There isn't actually a problem with 'what it is'. and what it is is all in our head? __________________, is obvious. What we think ABOUT ______________ is imaginary (is in our head).
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Post by laughter on Jan 4, 2018 7:35:12 GMT -5
and what it is is all in our head? __________________, is obvious. What we think ABOUT ______________ is imaginary (is in our head). Not that there's anything wrong with that. ... (well, mostly .. that is ... )
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